We've pushed them up already

[manudude03]

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All red at MPs, strong field, though NS are one of the weaker pairs in that field, have we done enough with this hand yet?

 

If asked, 1S-3D would have been weak.

[eagles123]

pass for me

[Endymion77]

Tough question. You were basically forced to re-open the first time so your X didn't show any extras. And your hand is a full ace above minimum. On the other hand, partner had a chance to bid twice and didn't. He might still have 5 small hearts and short spade so you make 3♥ and they make 3♦, but you can also turn +100 into -200 easily. With a singleton diamond I would probably double one more time, but with 2 small I think I'll pass and defend.

[mr1303]

Endy has this almost word perfect. I too pass for the reasons given.

[gszes]

IMPS and MP are very different games at MP x here is a reasonable move since

 

it goes for a top when p can pass at a small risk since letting the opps play 2d will

 

most likely result in a very poor mp score anyway.

 

At IMPS however the risk factor is significantly different since we would likely lose only a small

 

number if imps if we let the opps play 2d. x here goes for the relatively small number of hands

 

p is sitting on a penalty pass. The risk however is significant since p will have a hand that has to

 

bid 3c a lot more often than they have a penalty pass.3c rates to be a cruddy contract the vast

 

majority of the time and we will get x about as often as p could pass 2dx for penalty. The risk

 

vs reward for x seems too large (though hardly deplorable). These conditions seem to call for

 

2h

 

as a balancing bid rather than x. There is little downside since p will now have a very good

 

description of our hand and better yet we might manage to get to some otherwise unbiddable

 

heart games. If p had a penalty pass we still have 3n available as a game bid and while we may

 

miss out on a big penalty once in a while it is better to save our balancing x for hands with better

 

overall distribution if p cannot pass for penalty.

 

2h=10 x=5

 

 

 

[mfa1010]

Smooth pass, I think it's a pretty clear long term winner. 3♦ will often go down one or two, while we could be heading for an adventure, if partner has to scramble on a weak hand.

 

Saying we should have bid 2♥ before to cater to hearts is resulting, double was obvious, partner might have been able to make a penalty pass and we do have a takeout hand.

[the hog]

Pass. Another x would be off the planet.

[madongjun]

I would PASS.

[manudude03]

Thanks for the responses, I chose to pass, but couldn't help but feel double may have been better. Full hands below (pips have changed since I wasn't looking at hand records when I posted it).

 

[hv=pc=n&s=sj764h7dakqjt8ck4&w=s8h96432d92cj9763&n=skq5hkt5d764cq852&e=sat932haqj8d53cat]399|300[/hv]

 

If I remember right, 3D-1 was worth about 60% of the MPs, double would have been 80% if pulled to 3H, or 95% if left in.

[suleiman22]

Yeah, passing seems like the best choice there. :)

[rmnka447]

Pass. You've done your job and pushed them up a level.

 

A further Double pushes your side into a 3 level contract of uncertain desirability. There's a good chance for the matchpoint kiss of death --down 1 doubled vulnerable - 200. Partner had a chance to compete over 3 ♦ and didn't.

[the_clown]

Unhappy pass for me, would bid if we were NV.