mr1303 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=saq975ht86432d42c&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=1d2s3s(Game%20forcing%20%21D%20raise)]133|200[/hv] What do you call here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 5♠ and then make a Lightner double of their slam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 4♣, next will be many spades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'll follow Gonzalo's route here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 5C. Followed by pass over their slam or 5S over their 5 level bid. This will ensure I get C lead. I don't care if 5C is passed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Number of geniuses per square foot is way too high in BBF http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I bid 4C at the table. It now goes 6D all pass back to you. Are you finished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yes I am finished. Hopefully 6♦ goes down on a club lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I am prepared to sacrifice all the way to 6s but I need to prepare us for a x if the opps happen to bid 7d. That means this bid has to be 4h No matter how the bidding proceeds from this point (unless opps stop in 6n) I should be able to either bid 6s or get in my lightner x for the needed club lead against 7d. This is important since waiting until the 7 level to use lightner risks a mistake. Those choosing to bid 4c have the right idea but the concept of lighter is to primarily tell p what NOT to lead and to hunt around for something diffenent. The main purpose being the something different may be the only way to beat the opps slam. If we are going to defeat a slam on a normal lead then passing is fine save the lightner for hands where you give your side the only chance it may have to prevail. The 4c (like my 4h bid) are all too easily just a normal honor or natural lead director and may be needed when the opps bid more. They can also be used (as in this case) to set up a lightner x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I would bid 4♣ and then take the push to 6♠. I know it might be wrong, but it is likely to be cheaper than game, so I want to avoid a big loss. LHO's 6♦ is likely to be based on a spade void (no blackwood opposite an unlimited partner). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 white vs red,I would like bid 6♠,and hope majors(spade and heart) fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=saq975ht86432d42c&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=1d2s3s(Game%20forcing%20%21D%20raise)]133|200|What do you call here? [/hv] IMO 6♠ = 10, 4♣ = 9, 5♠ = 8. If opps bid 7♦, I like Broze's idea of a Lightner double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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