couchbaron Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 With Qxxx AQxx xx Qxx, GIB made a negative double after I opened 1c and RHO overcalled 1d. I jumped to 2H, described (accurately) as 3+c, 4+H, 18-22 pts, forcing to 3N. RHO rebid 3d, and GIB now freely bid 3N with 2 small diamonds and a known 8-card heart fit! With 3 small diamonds and MP scoring, I was happy to pass until I saw its hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Your hand:[hv=lin=pn|couchbaron,~~M5250,~~M5248,~~M5249|st||md|1SKAH23TKD579C3JKA%2CS5JH6D348QKAC589T%2CS347QH78QAD26C67Q%2C|rh||ah|Board%2011|sv|o|mb|1C|an|Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201|mb|1D|an|One-level%20overcall%20--%205%2B%20D%3B%208-17%20HCP%3B%209-19%20total%20points%20|mb|d|an|Negative%20double%20--%204%2B%20H%3B%204%2B%20S%3B%207%2B%20total%20points%20|mb|p|mb|2H|an|3%2B%20C%3B%204%2B%20H%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2018-22%20total%20points%3B|mb|3D|an|6%2B%20D%3B%2017-%20HCP%3B%2012-19%20total%20points%20|mb|3N|an|4-5%20H%3B%204-5%20S%3B%209-14%20HCP%3B%20likely%20stop%20in%20D%20|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc]360|270[/hv] At another table, South corrected to 4♥ and North wouldn't let it stay there:[hv=lin=pn|bridge%20mix,~~M5301,~~M5299,~~M5300|st||md|1SKAH23TKD579C3JKA%2CS5JH6D348QKAC589T%2CS347QH78QAD26C67Q%2C|rh||ah|Board%2011|sv|o|mb|1C|an|Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|1D|an|One-level%20overcall%20--%205%2B%20D%3B%208-17%20HCP%3B%209-19%20total%20points%20|mb|d|an|Negative%20double%20--%204%2B%20H%3B%204%2B%20S%3B%207%2B%20total%20points%20|mb|p|mb|2H|an|3%2B%20C%3B%204%2B%20H%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2018-22%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N|mb|3D|an|6%2B%20D%3B%2017-%20HCP%3B%2012-19%20total%20points%20|mb|3N|an|4-5%20H%3B%204-5%20S%3B%209-14%20HCP%3B%20likely%20stop%20in%20D%20|mb|p|mb|4H|an|3%2B%20C%3B%204%2B%20H%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2018-22%20total%20points|mb|p|mb|4N|an|Blackwood%20%28H%29%20--%204-5%20H%3B%204-5%20S%3B%2014-%20HCP%3B%2015%2B%20total%20points%3B%20likely%20stop%20in%20D%20|mb|p|mb|5C|an|Zero%20or%20three%20key%20cards%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%204%2B%20H%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2018-22%20total%20points%3B%203-%20controls|mb|p|mb|6H|an|4-5%20H%3B%204-5%20S%3B%2014-%20HCP%3B%2015%2B%20total%20points%3B%20likely%20stop%20in%20D%20|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p]360|270[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 At many tables, South bid 4♥ over the negative double, which GIB took as denying slam interest opposite a minimum negative double.[hv=?lin=pn|gregho,~~M5238,~~M5236,~~M5237|st||md|1SKAH23TKD579C3JKA%2CS5JH6D348QKAC589T%2CS347QH78QAD26C67Q%2C|rh||ah|Board%2011|sv|o|mb|1C|an|Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201|mb|1D|an|One-level%20overcall%20--%205%2B%20D%3B%208-17%20HCP%3B%209-19%20total%20points%20|mb|d|an|Negative%20double%20--%204%2B%20H%3B%204%2B%20S%3B%207%2B%20total%20points%20|mb|p|mb|4H|an|3%2B%20C%3B%204%2B%20H%3B%2018%20total%20points|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc]360|270[/hv]So, there may be something that GIB assumes about the 2♥ bid that he isn't telling us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Which is odd because I thought 2♥ is NF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Yeah, it's really unusual to play 2♥ as being that strong, to me it should be at least a full K lower in range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgi Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Thanks for reporting. Fixed in v29. Sometimes GIB used to find 3NT if in doubt for further call but having enough points for or being in GF. Now it won't be used without stopper. That fix covers variety of cases where 3NT used to come randomly ( assuming opponents introduced a suit already ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couchbaron Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Thanks for reporting. Fixed in v29. Sometimes GIB used to find 3NT if in doubt for further call but having enough points for or being in GF. Now it won't be used without stopper. That fix covers variety of cases where 3NT used to come randomly ( assuming opponents introduced a suit already ). Thanks everyone for chiming in and for the fix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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