Kungsgeten Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hi! This weekend I'm playing a match against this system: Pass = 4+ spades, 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.1C = 4+ hearts. 0-3 spades. 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.1D = 0-7 hcp, any distribution1H = Unbal without 4 card major, 8+ hcp. Forcing. May be 22+ balanced.1S = 8-12 semibalanced without 4 card major.1N = 13-18 semibalanced without 4 card major2m = 4+ minor and a 5+ major, 8-11 hcp2H = 4+ hearts and 5+ spades, 8-11 hcp2S = 11-14 hcp, 5-5 minors2N = 19-21 semibalanced, no major Any suggestions are welcomed, though I'd prefer it to be pretty simple if possible. I think it's a good idea to "get in" over their unlimited openings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hi! This weekend I'm playing a match against this system: Pass = 4+ spades, 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.1C = 4+ hearts. 0-3 spades. 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.1D = 0-7 hcp, any distribution1H = Unbal without 4 card major, 8+ hcp. Forcing. May be 22+ balanced.1S = 8-12 semibalanced without 4 card major.1N = 13-18 semibalanced without 4 card major2m = 4+ minor and a 5+ major, 8-11 hcp2H = 4+ hearts and 5+ spades, 8-11 hcp2S = 11-14 hcp, 5-5 minors2N = 19-21 semibalanced, no major Any suggestions are welcomed, though I'd prefer it to be pretty simple if possible. I think it's a good idea to "get in" over their unlimited openings. Interesting looking system. Please send us details regarding how the match goes! Here's a thought regarding competing over the 1H opening X = both majors or strong 1S = Spades S AJ72 H 52 D QT62 C 763S AQJ73 H 74 D 843 C K5S AJ843 H K74 D 672 C 42 1N = 2 suited with Spades and a minor S AQ52 H 673 D QT632 C 3S AJT62 H 4 D 52 C KJ942 2C = Clubs and Hearts S 7632 H QJ73 D 4 C KQ42S 5 H AQJ9 D Q42 C KQ8742 2D = Diamonds and Hearts S Q52 H KT52 D QT62 C 62S 42 H KJT82 D AQ932 C 3 2H = Hearts S 73 H QJT642 D K72 C 732S K4 H AQT9732 D 73 C 82 2S = Spades 2N = Clubs or Diamonds and a major 3C = Minors S 4 H 863 D KJ762 C KQ73S 2 H 63 D AT572 C AKT73 3D = Diamonds3H = Majors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattias Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 How about playing Antinonsens, as per page 145-146 of this document: http://www.ibpa.com/archive/Handbook/IBPA%20Handbook%202012.pdf . At the end they give specific suggestions against the Säffle system. Note that you will have seating rights against the team playing this system, and that you are allowed to look at prepared defenses after they open 1♦/♥/♠ (Also note that their 1S opening has three dots, not two as they claim on their convention card, since pass - 1♠ shows less than 4 spades in a potentially unbalanced hand. This gives that version of the opening three dots. The distinction is important since you are allowed to look at prepared defenses if they open with an opening bid with three dots.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hi! This weekend I'm playing a match against this system: Pass = 4+ spades, 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.1C = 4+ hearts. 0-3 spades. 8+ hcp. May be canapé. Forcing.1D = 0-7 hcp, any distribution1H = Unbal without 4 card major, 8+ hcp. Forcing. May be 22+ balanced.1S = 8-12 semibalanced without 4 card major.1N = 13-18 semibalanced without 4 card major2m = 4+ minor and a 5+ major, 8-11 hcp2H = 4+ hearts and 5+ spades, 8-11 hcp2S = 11-14 hcp, 5-5 minors2N = 19-21 semibalanced, no major Any suggestions are welcomed, though I'd prefer it to be pretty simple if possible. I think it's a good idea to "get in" over their unlimited openings. Do you know how 3rd seat bids over the P/1♣ ? I'd suggest you want to bid 1♠/N a lot over them, but exactly what it should mean is not clear and may depend on their methods. A word of warning, having played a wide range NT myself, intervening over it particularly with 2m may actually give them more options not less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted December 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Do you know how 3rd seat bids over the P/1♣ ? I'd suggest you want to bid 1♠/N a lot over them, but exactly what it should mean is not clear and may depend on their methods. A word of warning, having played a wide range NT myself, intervening over it particularly with 2m may actually give them more options not less. I think this is what they play: http://www.bridgefederation.se/landslag/obs/obs00-01/humsystem/lillasaffle.PDFPerhaps something is changed since that document was written though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Play semi penalty doubles. You want to double 1D close at least 40-45% of the time. You will quickly understand why pass is the best call in the bidding box. (1D)--X 11-16 with at least 3D. Its going to be a luck fest but on the long run of this def was enough to convince me that most FP systems are mostly swindle systems and that against serious def most of them are unplayable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted December 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'm sad to inform you that we did not meet the team playing this system in the tournament. I prepared a defense which I think would have worked okay, but never got to try it. Perhaps another time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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