mycroft Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I also randomly upvote posts when I am trying to reply. I suspect that a lot of us do this.I expect that explains most of my reputation, then... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Many prominent Forum participants upvote the post, not the poster...Of course that is the whole point. And I think that all but a very few posters do, in fact, do it this way...Do you really? I doubt this. I upvote posts I like even when I strongly disagree with everything else the person has posted...It appears to me that you're agreeing with agua and billw on this approach, although you say you doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 It appears to me that you're agreeing with agua and billw on this approach, although you say you doubt it. Agreeing with aqua, disagreeing with billw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Agreeing with aqua, disagreeing with billw.Er, but I was also agreeing with aqua. I guess I wasn't clear about that. Do you really? I doubt this. I upvote posts I like even when I strongly disagree with everything else the person has posted. I also randomly upvote posts when I am trying to reply. I suspect that a lot of us do this.For clarity, I agree, and I also upvote based on the post content, not based on who the poster is. On my screen, the upvote button is just above the multiquote button, with the reply button to the left. It is distinct enough that I don't think I have ever inadvertently upvoted. Maybe the display on other devices (phones, tablets) is more prone to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Er, but I was agreeing with aqua. I guess I wasn't clear about that. You were, I just read too quickly and saw "very few" rather than "all but a very few". :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Hmm, I don't see the two replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Time to close this with some conclusions: There are a few constructive ideas: hrothgar: use Daily Kos-system... what is it ?Antrax: best is NO rulesVampyr: strange to upvote questionsZelandakh: to enable people who just want to browse threads quickly to find the most important responses quickly. Zelandakh: There is nothing wrong with upvoting an interesting OPbilw: If you genuinely like the post, then voting it up is normalmike777: questions more interesting than the answersmike777: My way to say thank you for posting such a thoughtful, interesting question.aguahombre: upvote the post, not the posteraguahombre: an expression of agreementaguahombre: it valuable to see who upvotes a particular ideaVampyr: I upvote posts I like Lot of Hijacking attempts: diana_eve - a Yellow ! : about my birthdayGreenMan: an argument with hrothgarZelandakh: reponding to not to the point contri by JLogic.... and a lot more And I also want ot mention two unfriendly contributions: JLOGIC: a ProCsaba Thanks you all,but sorry, not enough input to start something usefull.That is why I will continue to make sure that the upvote system reflects my vision. Be The ♥ with you all,except JLOGIC and Csaba :)one downvote for them. PS: can I get your upvotes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Lot of Hijacking attempts: Vampyr: downvotes backetc.I don't think this was at all an attempt to hijack the thread. Any reasonable voting system should include both plus and minus votes; otherwise, the "love it or hate it" type of response will always get many upvotes without the downvotes that would correctly identify it as a double-edged sword. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I don't think this was at all an attempt to hijack the thread. Any reasonable voting system should include both plus and minus votes; otherwise, the "love it or hate it" type of response will always get many upvotes without the downvotes that would correctly identify it as a double-edged sword. Right, I will correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I don't think this was at all an attempt to hijack the thread. Any reasonable voting system should include both plus and minus votes; otherwise, the "love it or hate it" type of response will always get many upvotes without the downvotes that would correctly identify it as a double-edged sword.Ideally, yes. Unfortunately it only takes a few abusers to sabotage the system and this happened with downvotes. Perhaps if we had tighter limits on votes. Maybe 5 upvotes and 2 downvotes per day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I don't think this was at all an attempt to hijack the thread. Any reasonable voting system should include both plus and minus votes; otherwise, the "love it or hate it" type of response will always get many upvotes without the downvotes that would correctly identify it as a double-edged sword. Also certain posters seem to try to "downvote" a post in a thread by upvoting all the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Ideally, yes. Unfortunately it only takes a few abusers to sabotage the system and this happened with downvotes. Perhaps if we had tighter limits on votes. Maybe 5 upvotes per and 2 downvotes per day. What would be really interesting would be that downvotes required a comment explaining why. (And could then be subject to cancellation by mods.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 What would be really interesting would be that downvotes required a comment explaining why. (And could then be subject to cancellation by mods.)Anything that requires custom changes to the forum software is unlikely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Perhaps if we had tighter limits on votes. Maybe 5 upvotes per and 2 downvotes per day.This seems perfectly reasonable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 I don't think this was at all an attempt to hijack the thread. Any reasonable voting system should include both plus and minus votes; otherwise, the "love it or hate it" type of response will always get many upvotes without the downvotes that would correctly identify it as a double-edged sword. Of course a neutral rating will not represent this type of post, but I suppose there is no way to change to number of upvotes and number of downvotes instead of a single rating. I quite like the idea of low limits on votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 To be honest, I'm not sure what problem we're trying to fix. Let's say you all have a million bajillion rep and I have zero. What is the damage?The forum software can filter by score, but it does so in increments of 10. I've rarely seen a post with rep 10, and when I have, it's usually a really good zinger. If you really want more Bridge-worthy posts to stand out, just have stars on the forums as well. It's the same username in any case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 +1 for a daily limit on giving upvotes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I would find it mildly amusing if you had to give a written appraisal of say at least 10 words before you upvoted. Heart symbols would NOT count. I freely admit to giving PVWM (plus votes without merit) more often than most other posters, so I would be a net loser under this new rule, but it would still be a very funny situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLow21 Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Can you please stop upvoting me? Since I have started posting again you have upvoted me like 40 times just leave me alone, thanks.Almost upvoted this. Hahahaha :-) Happy holidays Justin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Can you please stop upvoting me? Since I have started posting again you have upvoted me like 40 times just leave me alone, thanks.Looks like she actually stopped voting for you, that was the last day. But you were only her second favorite in November, RSClyde got 3 more upvotes than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 I would find it mildly amusing if you had to give a written appraisal of say at least 10 words before you upvoted. Heart symbols would NOT count. I freely admit to giving PVWM (plus votes without merit) more often than most other posters, so I would be a net loser under this new rule, but it would still be a very funny situation.Of course, many of us upvote posts simply to say "I agree with this" or "that's what I was going to say", etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted December 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Barmar wrote me: QUOTE We've received another complaint about your excessive, random upvoting. You said a month ago that you would stop upvoting. But apparently you have been hitting the upvote limit almost every day:<br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248);"><br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248);">+------------+---------+ | date | upvotes | +------------+---------+ | 2013-12-26 | 20 | | 2013-12-25 | 20 | | 2013-12-24 | 12 | | 2013-12-23 | 4 | | 2013-12-22 | 20 | | 2013-12-21 | 20 | | 2013-12-20 | 20 | | 2013-12-19 | 20 | | 2013-12-17 | 20 | | 2013-12-16 | 20 | | 2013-12-08 | 20 | | 2013-12-06 | 20 | | 2013-12-05 | 20 | | 2013-12-02 | 2 | | 2013-12-01 | 18 | | 2013-11-30 | 20 | | 2013-11-29 | 20 |<br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248);"><br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248);">Do I have to disable your voting privilege to get you to keep your promise? UNQOUTE IfI promised something, it was to wait for the outcome about of thisthreat, hoping on the existence of general consensus, on what Avoting system should look like. AndI already said, as long as there are no guidelines for up ordown-voting, I would like that the results of the voting systemreflect my opinions. Isn't that basic for a Voting System. So I see no reason why I should not use the Voting system... Am I less than the other members ? Anyway,who complaint ? I never got a direct remark from any other member. "One" other complaint.... The first one, and the only one, I know of was by Inquiry ! As I do not want to provoke the execution of Barmar's threat, I will do no up-votes. After all, it is Christmas Time. I am awaiting all your reactions to what I consider an act of intellectual censorship by Barmar. Be The ♥ with you all and with the Voting System. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 I never got a direct remark from any other member. "One" other complaint.... The first one, and the only one, I know of was by Inquiry !Did you not see the one from JLOGIC? And the snarky comment from gwnn, which was upvoted by several people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Posting private messages is kind of an icky thing to do, FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Of course, many of us upvote posts simply to say "I agree with this" or "that's what I was going to say", etc. Yes, and in these cases upvoting is better than just posting that you agree, if you have nothing to add. Although of course sometimes we are forced to do this when the post is by a yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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