CSGibson Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 [hv=pc=n&n=sj72hqt53dkj93ca2&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1c]133|200[/hv] Action or inaction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Double looks normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 It is a standard hand for takeout,why inaction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I would rather come in now than guess what to do over 1N+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 [hv=pc=n&n=sj72hqt53dkj93ca2&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1c]133|200|Action or inaction?[/hv] IMO Double = 10, Pass = 9 (if 1♣ natural -- but if 1♣ can be 2 or 3 cards, then prefer Pass to Double). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 lol at first I thought they opened 1S and was like wtf are these comments. Agree with totally normal X of 1C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Our table http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn|jeffford76,ybob,CSGibson,ckv|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S459TKH2JD248C3JQ%2CS36QH689AD7QAC459%2CS27JH35TQD39JKC2A%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2020%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1C%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cr%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cmc%7C8%7C Garozzo's tablehttp://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn|JEC,1ironwoman,sillafu,djneill|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S459TKH2JD248C3JQ%2CS36QH689AD7QAC459%2CS27JH35TQD39JKC2A%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2020%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2N%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cmc%7C8%7C Win 6 I kind of thought that this was a slightly pushy but normal double also, but since Garozzo passed, I wanted to check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I kind of thought that this was a slightly pushy but normal double also, but since Garozzo passed, I wanted to check. It's kind of cool that the Italian Blue Team is generally credited for being the first to realize that you could make takeout doubles on stranger shapes which are now considered normal (3442 14 count over 1S, 4333 hands etc), and the importance of competing early with ~opening hands via a takeout double. Now we see Garozzo passing a hand that most modern experts would double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Our table [hv=sn=|lin=pn|jeffford76,ybob,CSGibson,ckv|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S459TKH2JD248C3JQ%2CS36QH689AD7QAC459%2CS27JH35TQD39JKC2A%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2020%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1C%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cr%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cmc%7C8%7C]499|350[/hv] Garozzo's table[hv=sn=|lin=pn|JEC,1ironwoman,sillafu,djneill|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S459TKH2JD248C3JQ%2CS36QH689AD7QAC459%2CS27JH35TQD39JKC2A%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2020%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2N%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cmc%7C8%7C]499|350[/hv]Win 6 I kind of thought that this was a slightly pushy but normal double also, but since Garozzo passed, I wanted to check. I help you to show hand pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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