CSGibson Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 [hv=pc=n&n=sajtht86daq4caqt6&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1c(2+%20%5B4432%5D)d3c(preemptive)pp3sp4s]133|200[/hv] 2/1, weak NT, and playing a potentially short club (4432 only). Partner's raise to 3♣ is sufficiently preemptive that you should not bid 3N with 18-19. edit: I should also mention that we won, 57-43. So there is no angst in these problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I would hit it, you have 3.5 certain tricks and it could easily go down 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Zero chance of +1 and every possibility of down two. Easy double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Lower the boom -- it would take something exceptional like a club void and KQ of ♠ on my left for 4♠ to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 [hv=pc=n&n=sajtht86daq4caqt6&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1c(2+%20%5B4432%5D)d3c(preemptive)pp3sp4s]133|200|2/1, weak NT, and playing a potentially short club (4432 only). Partner's raise to 3♣ is sufficiently preemptive that you should not bid 3N with 18-19. I should also mention that we won, 57-43. So there is no angst in these problems[/hv] IMO Pass = 10, Double = 9. and :) Congratulations! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Double = 10 Pass = 0 This is a common enough scenario, your preempt forced them to guess a bit and they punted game with a fit and they were wrong and we are 95 % sure that they are wrong, let's just double. Even if declarer has KQ of spades and the DK they are unlikely to have the entries to dummy to pick up everything. We are probbably going to get a tap going also. Even if dummy has the short clubs if they only have 3 spades they cannot ruff 2 clubs in dummy while picking up our trumps. It's just terrible to not X. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I should also mention that we won, 57-43.Congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Double. And I would suggest bidding 3♣ with a hand where partner is expected to bid 3NT with 18-19 balanced. Otherwise it is too low frequency and you want to be making this sort of bid as often as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Double. And I would suggest bidding 3♣ with a hand where partner is expected to bid 3NT with 18-19 balanced. Otherwise it is too low frequency and you want to be making this sort of bid as often as possible. Your suggestion is noted and disagreed with in context of our system, which employs a weak NT - basically if we employed your method, we should make the bid with a good 6 to a bad 8 HCP, and nothing else ish, or we wouldn't know what to do when we had a strong NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Doubled, down 2, win 9. [hv=sn=lin=pn|jeffford76,ybob,CSGibson,ckv|st%7C%7Cmd%7C3S4H2359D25TJC258J%2CS235H47QD678KC349%2CSTJAH68TD4QAC6TQA%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%201%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7C2%2B%20%284432%29%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7C3C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cmc%7C8%7C]499|350[/hv] Sorry, have no idea how to resize this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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