jeffford76 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sq8752ha764dktcj7&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1c1s2c]133|200[/hv] What's your call? If you bid 4♠, then 5♣ is bid on your left and it comes back around. Now what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 3c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 It's quite common to play 2NT here as 9+ with 4+ trumps, and this looks a good hand for the method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phikappaph Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 It's quite common to play 2NT here as 9+ with 4+ trumps, and this looks a good hand for the method. More of a question than an answer to follow. I have played a lot of robot 4 handed bridge and notice that the program often uses a raise in the opponents' bid suit to show at least 4 trump support and solid points. I assume the raise in the club suit rather than a raise in partner's suit is to show the amount of trump support and the points, something a simple raise in spades would leave to some guessing by partner. But my question is regarding your bid of 2 NT, and I am assuming East has five clubs, are you telling East you have a stopper or partial stopper in clubs? Are you asking partner to bid if he does not have a stopper in clubs? Are you assuming East has only four clubs and you can weather those suit losers? I ask this because of the many, many games I have played and lost in NT due to a single or partial only stopper in the opponents' suit. And I never seem to get it right. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I would not jump to 4♠ with no shortage. The law is poor at any level but gets worse as you go higher, and we have no idea how many trumps they have anyway. I would just bid 3♣ and pass 3♠ from partner. It's a guess, but I would double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I would show a 4-card spade raise to the three-level. Jumping, or committing, to four spades looks too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 With the bland shape, make the call that shows a mixed raise with 4+ trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffford76 Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 With the bland shape, make the call that shows a mixed raise with 4+ trumps. You don't have a mixed raise available. Rightly or wrongly, 3♣ is limit+ and 2NT is natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sq8752ha764dktcj7&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1c1s2c]133|200| What's your call? If you bid 4♠, then 5♣ is bid on your left and it comes back around. Now what?[/hv] IMOOver 2♣, 2N (good 4+card raise) = 10,3♣ (UCB) = 8, 4♠ (Pre-emptive) = 7.If you bid 4♠ and LHO bids 5♣ passed to you, then Double = 10, 5♠ = 8.If you bid 2N or 3♣ and LHO bids 5♣ passed to you, then 5♠ = 10, Double = 9, Pass = 8 (becaue partner's pas suggests action).If you bid 2N or 3♣, partner bids 4♠ and RHO bids 5♣ then Pass (Not forcing but suggesting action) = 10, Double = 9, 5♠ = 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Yeah just show a limit raise, there is less advantage than normal in blasting since they are unlikely to have much of a guess on what to true (it's true LHO could have a hand that wants to invite partner to bid 5C and 4S takes it away, but it seems unlikely based on my actual hand). Compared to bidding like 1S p 4S playing precision which I'd be all for since LHO is more likely to face a tough decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffford76 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 The table was the spoilered auction - I bid 4♠ and LHO bid 5♣ down one doubled. If you bid 3♣ they'll most likely play and make 4♣. Of course had they chosen better over 4♠ I'd have been -500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Pressure bidding wins again even when it's bad if everyone knows all the hands... well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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