pclayton Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 [hv=s=skthaqxxdaj9xxcxx]133|100|[/hv] IMPs You are playing 2/1 Lawrence style. Pard's 2♠ is a catchall, not promising 6, but denying hands that can bid anything else, like 2♥, 2N or 3♦. So far: 1♠ - 2♦ - 2♠ (opps passing throughout) What do you rebid over 2♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerardo Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 3♥. Partner can bid 3NT with a ♣ stopper and 3♠ with a 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgeboy Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 I presume the bidding went: 1S 2S2S ? 3H is my choice, though it might be tough to show the Kx S later when 4S is better despite a 5-2 fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 I think I'd bid 3H (P likely doesn't have 4), If I had had a club stopper with this distro, then would probably rebid 2NT to avoid giving partner an impossible situation should I have rebid 3H and he has no club stopper. Almost seems that 3H denies a club stopper. IMO, is partly a case of the dog that didn't bark: Opener didn't rebid 2 or more hearts. Personally, I prefer to not play 2S as default rebid/ no other bid available after a 1S opener: prefer 2NT as catch-all with scattered values and no other rebid that seems clear-cut. The one bid I would definitely not make, even if 2S showed 6+ spades, is 4S! I play that as a shape bid, like a 6-4 or something similar, not a "quick arrival/ shut up partner" bid as opener's hand isn't limited yet. But-then again, not exactly an expurt over here, so...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 I don't think you can have it both ways. If you want to play 2♠ as a 6 bagger, then minimum 5314's have to be rebid 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 I vote for 2N. Pd could bid 2N without 4 hearts. He didnt do it either because he has 6+ spades or he has 4clubs but min hand. He has no 4 hearts for sure. So I think 2N is best. After 2N, if pd has 5422 he can raise to 3N. If he has 6 spades, he can rebid 3C, 3D or 3S depending on the shape and I will should my good doubleton support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 if he is playing Lawrence style, I thought that did promise 6 spades, so my bet is 3!H looking for club stop for 3nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Lawrence says that you need to choose either 2♠ or 2NT as your catch all response - this means that you either play 2♠ as showing only 5+, or bid 2NT when you may not stop the other suits. The style is important here - in Peter's style then 3♥ seems clear as Gerardo says. If 2♠ shows 6, then 3♠ seems equally clear as you now want to play in spades rather than notrump. paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeG Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 To repeat a quote I have seen numerous times in the Bridge World MSC, "Why lie when you can tell the truth"? 2NT without a club stopper is silly. You have easy continuations if you bid 3♥. If partner bids 3♠, raise to 4. If partner bids 3NT, pass. If partner bids 4{DI], bid 4♠ showing a doubleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 3♥ for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 I presume the bidding went: 1S 2S2S ? I suspect you are wrong! Put me down for 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 2N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 This hand was from Challenge the Champs, January, '04. Both pairs rebid 3♥ with this hand. I bid this with my pard and he made the same call. I have a real problem over 3♥. I held: ♠QJ9xxx, ♥Kx♦Kx♣KTx (close I think, I don't have my copy around). I hate to choose between rebidding my ragged 6 card suit a THIRD time or showing my stopper for 3N. I chose 3N, which is what both other pairs did. Obviously 4♠ is superior. Certainly its better here if you play that 2♠ promises a 6 bagger. But many don't. Its extremely unlikely that a heart fit is available. 3♥ just uses up a lot of space, and is somewhat pointless. Frankly, I think 3♥ should show a hand like: x, AQJx, AKQxxx, xx that does not have any interest in spades, and is a probe for 3N or beyond. I think the best call with the subject hand is 2N. It saves valuable space and allows you to show secondary spades later at the 3 level. If partner raises to 3, you can bet he doesnt have 6 spades. 3N will likely be the best game (if there is one), even if clubs are xx opposite xxxx or even xxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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