Can you do better than we did ?

[nige1]

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Agree with Fluffy.

Over 2♠, 3♠ = 10, Double = 7, 5♣ = 6, 6♣ = 5

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Agree with Fluffy again

Double = 10, 5♦ = 8, Pass = 5

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[benlessard]

For me, 3♠ followed by 5C is stronger than a direct 5♣. I am actually surprised anyone would think otherwise.

 

How many losers you need to bid 5C at imps vul here ?

 

While 3S is often a hand where you want to play 3NT if partner got a stopper and nothing else but if partner doesnt bid 3NT your just going to guess what you hope you can make so it cannot be stronger than a direct leap to 5C. Maybe 3S-3NT-5C show a better hand than 5C but its a rare route anyway.

 

At MP I would X but at imps jumping to 5C as a lot going for it. Advancer with KQx of D will have an easy 6C bid.

 

After 3S--3NT-- jumping to 5C I agree that its probably stronger than a jump to 5C but its a rare route anyway.

[Cyberyeti]

Partner's hands were:

 

Kxx, xxxxx, KQx, 9x

 

So you want to be in 6 (6N by him is the nuts), do you think this is enough for 4N over (2♠)-3♠-(4♠)- ?

 

Qxx, J10xx, AQ, xxxx

 

So pass or double should get you a plus score unless partner completely falls off the planet, any contract you play is doomed, ♣AQJ109 are over the K and the Q♥ is wrong.

[Fluffy]

Partner's hands were:

 

Kxx, xxxxx, KQx, 9x

 

So you want to be in 6 (6N by him is the nuts), do you think this is enough for 4N over (2♠)-3♠-(4♠)- ?

 

♦Q makes it likely that partner has the ace, although for me ♥A and 7 solid clubs would be enough for 3♠, the odds are in favour of ♦A being in partner´s hands, so moving on sounds correct.

 

Even if responder passes the 3♠ bidder can double to show extras, but perhaps not that much as he has now.

[Cyberyeti]

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♦Q makes it likely that partner has the ace, although for me ♥A and 7 solid clubs would be enough for 3♠, the odds are in favour of ♦A being in partner´s hands, so moving on sounds correct.

 

Even if responder passes the 3♠ bidder can double to show extras, but perhaps not that much as he has now.

 

Of course if you move, partner will have x, Axx, A, AKQxxxxx.

[Fluffy]

you should replace ♥A with the King, ir else there are 10 tricks still :)

[Cyberyeti]

you should replace ♥A with the King, ir else there are 10 tricks still :)

 

What I meant was that ♠K and ♦KQ add no tricks to the second hand, so bidding 6 is not great, but funny if they kick off with 2 rounds of spades.

[benlessard]

Over an initial 5C (instead of double) you have an easy raise to 6C. 6NT is tough.