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A sense of impending doom


Jinksy

  

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  1. 1. What's your call, given no discussion?

    • Pass
      4
    • 2N
      3
    • 3C
      8
    • 3D
      8
    • 3H
      0
    • Other
      0
    • Stop! 3D
      2


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Given that you hadn’t discussed continuations here (beyond a forcing 2N), what’s your call (and how do you expect P to take it)?

 

OK, this is what I'd expect.

 

2N strong relay (given)

3 to play in clubs if partner has them, may be diamonds or hearts if not, I may invite opposite diamonds

3 to play in diamonds if partner has them, partner bids 3 normally with hearts and clubs, I can pass or invite in clubs

 

I'm thus a bit stuffed, particularly as partner could go bananas here if he has a good hand over 2N, I think I pass 2 (NV I don't think it's close).

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Where do you see that in the OP? It says "forcing". That doesn't mean "strong", does it?

 

Rik

 

If you have pass/correct bids it should be strong, but I normally take forcing as "forcing through strength" in this sort of sequence because unless you have the arrangement that partner can't show extras by bidding something other than 3m, you get into too much trouble otherwise.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Teams, unfavourable. LHO opens 1S (SAYC), and partner overcalls 2S, Hs and a minor, wide-ranging strength. You try to look confident as you gaze down at:

 

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Given that you hadn't discussed continuations here (beyond a forcing 2N), what's your call (and how do you expect P to take it)?

 

Given the same meaning of 2S, would you choose something different than what you'd expect an average reasonable strength P to take as your response structure?

 

3D to play unless pd has very unusual michaels.

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Given the conditions in the OP I would bid 2NT. For 90+% of pick-up players out there this just asks for the minor and nothing else. Bidding 3 may work out or may be taken as a good hand and we have no way of knowing. At least this route we can be fairly certain of either playing 3 undoubled or 3.

 

In practise, I like to play the 2NT advance as a relay and allow partner to bid something other than 3m over this. Then 3 is pass/correct and 3 is a good raise of hearts. But you cannot assume something like this without discussion so better to play it safe with a sequence that you can be fairly certain of.

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