"canape natural"

[sakuragi]

is there a ready system with

• 
   
  
• canape
  
• all other elements same as sayc (strong 1NT, transfer, weak 2, etc)
  

 

if there is one, kindly share a link.

[TylerE]

Not quite what you're looking for, but for about 2 years I played a system with:

 

Canape 1-bids

Intermediate NT (Good 12-15)

Strong 2s (Artificial GF 2♣ (e.g. std), 2♦/2♥/2♠ shows 8+ playing tricks in the shown suit, forcing for one round with next suit negative

 

It was playable, and we had some strong results at local tournements, and a source of much mirth and amusement, but not what I'd play to win an NABC event.

In general it did a lot better at MP than IMPs - game bidding could be a bit iffy at times, but it did very well on partscore deals.

[hrothgar]

is there a ready system with

• 
   
  
• canape
  
• all other elements same as sayc (strong 1NT, transfer, weak 2, etc)
  

 

if there is one, kindly share a link.

 

Blue Club comes the closest

 

Strong Club

1NT = 16-18 balanced or (13-15 balanced with 3=3=2=5 / 3=3=3=4 shape)

1D = 4+ cards

2D = Strong Roman (17-24 with 4441 shape)

 

Its not that difficult to tweak things for a normal strong NT and a weak 2D

 

http://www.amazon.com/Italian-Blue-Team-bridge-book/dp/B0006CU29G

[yunling]

Roman Club seems to meet your requirement better.

http://www.bridgewithdan.com/systems/Roman.pdf

 

But unlimited canape openings don't work very well since it is very hard to show intermediate hands.

[helene_t]

Canape is awkward if you play a wide-range opening scheme (13-19 or even 11-21) as in "natural" systems. This is because after

1♥-1♠

2♦

responder can't take a false preference to hearts. So playing 2♦ as 11-17 won't work well - responder can bid 3♦ with 10-12 and pass with 5-7 but with 8-9 he is in an awkward position.

 

It is even worse after

1♦-1♠

2♥

In natural longest-first systems, opener would not show his second suit with a minimum. But playing Canape you have to show you second suit. So 2♥ is nonforcing. 11-17 is already an uncomfortably wide range, and besides, if opener has to jump to 3♥ to show 18+, you have even less bidding space left than you have after a non-reverse jump.

 

So Canape systems are based on limited opening ranges, say 11-15, with an artificial 1♣ showing 16+

[Zelandakh]

Could I suggest reading this blog entry, which explains why the system you are asking for may not be a particularly good idea. In any case, I do remember a French system in which you opened differently (natural versus canape) depending on your hand strength and this is probably as close as anything to what you are seeking. Unfortunately I cannot remember the name but it was successful at World Championship level so someone here should be able to identify it. Most modern canape methods use a forcing club though, so you might also think about moving in that direction if canape is important to you.

[kenrexford]

In the early 90's I played a system called rosso e nerro that had tendency canapé. Strong 1nt, 16-18. Canape if strong. The range was such that you could have a strong 2C opening. No chance for weak twos, and the gcc would need tweaked to allow it.