mr1303 Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 S9HQJxxD AKxxxC 10XX You open a precision diamond as per your style. 1D (1S) P (2C)P 4NT P 5HP 6C X PP XX Float Do you lead a top diamond or a spade? Or something else too for that matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 I lead a spade. The X talks me out of the "natural" diamond lead, and I really expect a diamond void somewhere on the hand. If partner holds it, this will teach him not to double when he wants the natural lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 dummy´s spades are rock solid, what else can he have for his bidding? if partner has a void that´s only 1 trick, where is the other?If partner has a side void and a lot of diamonds did he have a preemptive raise? I lean towards ♦A, I have been wrong before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Partner's double says one of two things: (1) We are beating 6♣ if you lead a spade; or(2) We are beating 6♣ regardless of what you lead. So, I lead a spade. If we were beating 6♣ on a high diamond lead (and partner cannot know that you have the top diamonds) and not on a spade lead then partner would not have doubled. This is very basic. [by the way, can I turn the cube to 8? - :)] The auction is, indeed, very peculiar. LHO made a 1♠ overcall, which is not forcing. His partner bid 2♣, which may or may not be forcing, but certainly does not show game forcing strength. Over that, LHO asks for keycards and bids slam. Not something you see everyday. Clearly, LHO is highly distributional and strong. Besides partner's double, this argues against a high diamond lead. It is remotely possible that a high diamond lead might be the only lead that gives away the slam. I am not going to attempt to put together a layout that leads to that result, but if RHO is two-suited in the minors, he may have to establish his diamonds to bring in 12 tricks. Leading a top diamond (LHO is void, of course) may be the only way that RHO can succeed. But none of this deep thinking is required. Unless your partnership has some well defined non-standard definition of a double of a voluntarily bid slam, the double demands a spade lead, so I lead a spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Dummy's bidding is weird. First he makes only a simple overcall, but then later he drives strongly to slam. Use of blackwood seems to indicate no void; but a redouble often suggests a void. What do I know about this player? Is he weak or strong, steady or prone to gambles (like redoubles just for fun)? Basically, how reliable should I expect inferences from his bids to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted October 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 LHO is a known operator. Sorry, should've mentioned this at the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 That only makes the spade lead more attractive imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 You should always side with your partner over anyone, even God! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 You should always side with your partner over anyone, even God! But what is partner's side on this board?What is he asking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 But what is partner's side on this board?What is he asking for?I think Art explained it well. Particularly if this guy is known for funny business, I will pay his bids no attention. In fact knowing this, I suspect that the redouble is just a bluff, trying to get me to not lead a spade. So I will just do as partner asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 I can't construct a board where the spade opening lead is critical AND partner knows it. If partner has AQ of spades behind dummy, how will declarer avoid those losers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Opening lead diamond ruff and an AK in a suit vs declarers singleton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 You should always side with your partner over anyone, even God!I don't have that conflict; they are one and the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSClyde Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 I think he has slow spades behind the dummy. I'll just lead a trump. The lightner interpretation requires partner to have oodles of cards in 2 suits. I'll agree partner has a void... in clubs!I don't understand statements like "partner wants a spade lead" or "partner is asking for a spade lead". What is partner's hand where a spade lead is right?On the other hand perhaps the ace of diamonds (never the king) is better than a trump. In case dummy has 11 cards in 2 suits and declarer AK of hearts. I expect I'll be overruffing declarer soon anyway. The ace of diamonds only loses when declarer can set up his own hand instead of the dummy. There's no reason to believe that's the case. I think partner's double is encouraging me: we'll probably beat this don't try something crazy: like some bizarre under lead looking for a spade ruff. You may think this sounds backwards but how would you defend 6C holding-JxxxAKQxxxxxx if partner didn't double? ...and what if you knew that the spade suit was dead? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSClyde Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 dummy´s spades are rock solidThen why doesn't he just bid 6♠? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Partner's double says one of two things: (1) We are beating 6♣ if you lead a spade; or(2) We are beating 6♣ regardless of what you lead. So, I lead a spade. If we were beating 6♣ on a high diamond lead (and partner cannot know that you have the top diamonds) and not on a spade lead then partner would not have doubled. This is very basic. [by the way, can I turn the cube to 8? - :)] The auction is, indeed, very peculiar. LHO made a 1♠ overcall, which is not forcing. His partner bid 2♣, which may or may not be forcing, but certainly does not show game forcing strength. Over that, LHO asks for keycards and bids slam. Not something you see everyday. Clearly, LHO is highly distributional and strong. Besides partner's double, this argues against a high diamond lead. It is remotely possible that a high diamond lead might be the only lead that gives away the slam. I am not going to attempt to put together a layout that leads to that result, but if RHO is two-suited in the minors, he may have to establish his diamonds to bring in 12 tricks. Leading a top diamond (LHO is void, of course) may be the only way that RHO can succeed. But none of this deep thinking is required. Unless your partnership has some well defined non-standard definition of a double of a voluntarily bid slam, the double demands a spade lead, so I lead a spade.You can never exclude that your partner has made a mistake.Deep thinking should never be rejected, because it will improve your Bridge results. Leading spades can only help declarer. It seems to me more likely that partner's double was poor and of the variety they are going down. He believes 6♣ is going down with all his spades and could have miscalculated. But sitting there and assuming my lead does not matter is not a winning proposition There are some keys:Partner did not negative double,so is unlikely to hold hearts. So where are all the hearts? My guess is declarer has them:[hv=pc=n&s=s4ha765d76ckj8765&w=s9hqj32dak432ct32&n=saqt832hk4d5caq94&e=skj765ht98dqjt98c&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1d1sp2cp4np5hp6cdpprppp]399|300[/hv]Lead a top diamond, when partner plays the queen, continue diamonds and force the dummy. Rainer Herrmann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Rainer, with that hand, I think east is taking a call at his first turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Partner had made a double on KQ109x of spades, not wanting opening leader to lead into a tenace position. Unfortunately I didn't have the full hand, but on this hand a top diamond is necessary and partner gets a spade trick in the fullness of time. If you don't, your diamond trick goes away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSClyde Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 This reminds me of what a pro I know always says (in reference to carding but it applies here): Partner doesn't tell you what to do, he tells you what he has, you have to figure out how to use that information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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