sieong Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I saw the following play problem from a JEC match this weekend. You are declarer in 6♦. [hv=pc=n&s=sj4haq84dakj6ca42&n=sa5hjd98542ckq963]133|200[/hv] The lead was ♠T. If ♦ are 2-2 or ♦Q is singleton and clubs breaks no worse than 4-1, the contract is cold. Assuming ♦ break 3-1, is it better to 1. Hook a heart (♠A, ♦A, ♦K, ♣K, heart to the Q); or2. Play for ♥K coming down in three rounds, or person with long diamonds have 3-4 clubs (♠A, ♦A, ♥A, ruff a heart, ♦K, ruff a heart, then if ♥K is still outstanding, play on ♣?) In general, is there good way to determine the odds at the table (♥K coming down in 3 rounds is about 22%, but how to determine the conditional distribution of the person with long diamonds having long clubs? And how to factor in that hearts are breaking no worse than 5-3?)? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkle Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'll reply to how to estimate the odds of long diamonds with long clubs. A way to get a pretty good estimate is to look at empty spaces, and further simplify the problem by looking at 3-2 club breaks. So: If long (3) diamonds are with long (3) clubs, one hand would have 7 major suit cards and the other hand 10. If long diamonds (3) are with short clubs (2), one hand would have 8 major suit cards and the other hand 9. The ratio of these two hand types are: 9!8! : 10!7! = 8:10. This gives you 44.4%. If you do the same thing for 4-1 breaks, you get 7*8:10*11. This gives you 33.7%. So the figure is somewhere in between, but closer to 44.4%. Call it 41%? I used to spend a lot of time trying to figure out exact percentage of various lines but nowadays I don't do it because it doesn't help me at the table. At the table I'd just note that it's slightly (but not much) less than 50%... I would've expected around 45% but it appears 40% is a better guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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