Only SAYC bidding question.

[Adam1105]

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Although, I'm interested in what other players would bid sitting East, I'm MUCH MORE INTERESTED in knowing exactly the god of SAYC says I'm supposed to bid here.

 

[hv=pc=n&e=sa963h962da632c86&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1c2s]133|200[/hv]

 

Thank you for you kind help.

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[TylerE]

Find the nearest green card.

[aguahombre]

SAYC is just a system card. No system covers what to do when you don't have the values to do anything; they just leave it to our fertile imagination.

[mr1303]

This is more interesting if it goes P P X P.

 

I think I defend but without much conviction.

[Endymion77]

Pass, and also pass a reopening double and lead a club

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

the booklet

http://web2.acbl.org/documentlibrary/play/SP3%20(bk)%20single%20pages.pdf

 

Taken from the section "Competive Bidding"

 

Bids after intervention retain their meaning, if possible.

 

#1 X is neg. up to 2S

 

On a quick glance, I was not able to find the req. for a neg. X on the 2 level,

for a 1 level neg. X, you need 6+

 

#2 Cue is forcing to game, with no clear direction for the moment

 

You did ask about a competive seq., and the section about "Competive Bidding" is only

on 1 page, so you cant expect a clear answer from the booklet / from the SAYC gods.

 

My take:

 

#1 pass

#2 if partner reopens with a X, bid 3D

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[TylerE]

Why the heck would I be considering making a negative X on this hand. The shape is 100% wrong, why even bring that up?

[ArtK78]

Hi,

 

the booklet

http://web2.acbl.org.../play/SP3%20(bk)%20single%20pages.pdf

 

Taken from the section "Competive Bidding"

 

Bids after intervention retain their meaning, if possible.

 

#1 X is neg. up to 2S

 

On a quick glance, I was not able to find the req. for a neg. X on the 2 level,

for a 1 level neg. X, you need 6+

 

#2 Cue is forcing to game, with no clear direction for the moment

 

You did ask about a competive seq., and the section about "Competive Bidding" is only

on 1 page, so you cant expect a clear answer from the booklet / from the SAYC gods.

 

My take:

 

#1 pass

#2 if partner reopens with a X, bid 3D

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

 

This seems right, but I don't know about the final action. Anything could be right, including the penalty pass.

 

The first part of the problem is easy. The second part is very difficult.

[P_Marlowe]

Why the heck would I be considering making a negative X on this hand. The shape is 100% wrong, why even bring that up?

It was intended as a complete summary of the things, SAYC says about competitive bidding situations.

If you know the complete summary, you know, if the SAYC notes cover the situation or not.

And if I give you another add. Ace, but make the your spade holding xxxx, than the shape is still

100% wrong, than the neg. X is at least an option, ... or not.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[TylerE]

I know exactly what the booklet says: "The negative double is used through 2♠ promising four cards (at least) in an unbid

major."

 

Are you misreading the auction? The unbid major is hearts, not spades.