cherdano Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=e&s=skq8432hq75d4cqj4]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦-(2♣)-?[/hv]You are playing NFBs. Is this hand for you still in range for 2♠, or is it too strong? What would be the maximum, what would be the minimum for you? If it is too strong, how would you deal with this hand? Do you play a jump to 3♠ as forcing or invitational? X, then bidding spades is GF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 You say you play 2s as non-forcing and you ask ME what 3s is? Boy I really hope YOU know what 3s means otherwise you are in big trouble.You must have some agreement about a direct 3s or a 2d cuebid followed by 3s. Of course the hand is too strong for 2s, I need to know the difference between 3s and 2d followed by 3s to pick the right continuation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 I don't think it's too strong for 2S. Actually, this is the sort of hand I'd be glad I use NFBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 You say you play 2s as non-forcing and you ask ME what 3s is? Boy I really hope YOU know what 3s means otherwise you are in big trouble. Yes, but I am asking what your preferred agreement would be if you played NFB. 2♦ would show inv+ with club fit for me; do you want to make this a generic force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 You say you play 2s as non-forcing and you ask ME what 3s is? Boy I really hope YOU know what 3s means otherwise you are in big trouble. Yes, but I am asking what your preferred agreement would be if you played NFB. 2♦ would show inv+ with club fit for me; do you want to make this a generic force? Yes, if 2s is non forcing then the cuebid doesn't show club support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Yes, I would like to be playing negative free bid when I am dealt this hand. Sure it has 10 hcp, but he QJx of clubs are not offensive cards on this auction, and the singleton in partners suit really is not a great sign either. Also the quality of the spades are only so-so... I would like better spots (I always want better spots). I think this hand is not as good as you are thinking it is if you think it might be too strong for a negative free bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Sorry I missunderstood the problem I though that pd overcalled 2c and we had to decide what to do... Singleton diamond in opener's suit and QJx of support looked awesome.If the problem is the response by the 1d opener's pd then I think I agree a NF 2s is suitable all the good things for a 2c overcall make the hand bad after the 2c overcall :-)That's why I was referring to a 2d cuebid :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 2♠ 7-11 normally 6 cards, that is the definition so use it. 3♠ is weak as I play it (0-6). Double with any 12+ hand except those without 4 card major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 easy NFB of 2s =often "around" 7/8-11 hcp and 6 spades, just what I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 bergen (who maybe didn't invent nf bids but was certainly one of its biggest supporters) says they show 6/7-11... for me, this hand is on the cusp between double and 2s, but i'd lean toward 2s (neg free bid)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 This is good for NFB 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 NFB seems to describe the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Immediate 3♠. You have invitational values and a long good ♠ suit. Isn't this what the bid is? I always play:2♠ is NF (you're too strong imo)Dbl followed by ♠ is GFjump bids are natural invitational Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 In Holland negative free bids seem to be standard in this situation. My friends there use the 8-11 range with 5+ spades, so this hand is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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