mr1303 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sa5432hkqt2da2c32&n=skqhaj543dkq43ck4&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=pp1sp2hp3hp3s(Rabbit%204%20way)p4d(Denies%20serious%20slam%20interest)p4n(Key%20card%20for%3F)p]266|200[/hv] This hand came up during a session with my mentee last night. Afterwards I started thinking about the 3S call. This could be taken as either a spade control or spade support. If the latter, then 4NT would be key card for spades, which has a lot of potential for disaster. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 N isn't really a PH, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yeah, sorry, I accidentally put the wrong dealer down, and couldn't work out how to change it. Assume South opens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 This one is regular and here is a recent thread in which Justin contributed to the specific question being raised in the OP (Answer: double fit is more common but cue bidding is better). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sa5432hkqt2da2c32&n=skqhaj543dkq43ck4&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=pp1sp2hp3hp3s(Rabbit%204%20way)p4d(Denies%20serious%20slam%20interest)p4n(Key%20card%20for%3F)p]266|200[/hv]This hand came up during a session with my mentee last night.In the case of both majors, the first Major to be supported : ♥ is agreed as trump . 3S! therefore is a Ctrl cue bid .4D = ♦ Ctrl, denies ♣ Ctrl . 4NT = RKCB for ♥..... - 5C = 0 or 3 5D ( ♥Q-ask since the 3H support bid could be as few as 3 cards )..... - 6H ( ♥Q but no outside Kings ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 At the table I would just keep it simple and blast to 6h after 4d. I don't want a cuebidding or rkc disaster. This sort of deal demands detailed agreements with a long term partner that you both remember under pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Over 3s you might want to try 3nt by south is a serious slam try, 4d or 4h would be less. On this hand north needs south to have 3 keycards and the Qh which qualifies as a serious slay try. Playing 3h always agrees hearts as setting trumps has its pluses and minuses, not sure about that agreement but it works on this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 At the table I would just keep it simple and blast to 6h after 4d. I don't want a cuebidding or rkc disaster. This sort of deal demands detailed agreements with a long term partner that you both remember under pressure.I would have kept it simpler and just bid 4NT after hearing ♥ support. If that leads to a rkc disaster, we certainly shouldn't be playing rkc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I would have kept it simpler and just bid 4NT after hearing ♥ support. If that leads to a rkc disaster, we certainly shouldn't be playing rkc! Of course but the five level is not safe hence the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Of course but the five level is not safe hence the problem.If you are going to bid 4NT after partner cuebids a minor, then an immediate 4NT is only worse if partner doesn't have either minor Ace. Given that, he will almost certainly have ♠A and ♥KQ and ♣Q, won't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hi, I am a simple soul, 3S is a cue for hearts, but showes a top honor. If you play 3S as showing primary fit, than a common solution is to play6 KC Asks.http://www.bridgeguys.com/Conventions/6AceRKCB.html To complicate for me. Playing the cue as showing a top honor does the job of locating missingtophonors in the secondary suit quite well, not always, but sufficiently often. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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