"I wouldn't have passed"

[blackshoe]

Not the major suit opening bid; but some responses and rebids are commonly alerted. The source of your question is the opening 1M which might be on 5-6 with a longer minor. It is not a canape opening because the minor will not be revealed as longer via methods; so it is not alerted or alertable.

1. The fact that something is commonly alerted does not mean that the alert regulations in force require such an alert. It means that people have decided to alert it regardless what the regulations say.

2. Canapé openings have nothing to do with Walsh, and vice versa. Walsh is about responses to a 1♣ opening.

[barmar]

Walsh used to be alertable in ACBL, but they dropped it in one of the last couple of alert chart revisions.

[campboy]

I believe that in the EBU the major-suit response which could have longer diamonds is alertable, but the 1♦ response which tends not to have a major is not. This was made explicit in the old Orange Book; it is less clear in the new Blue Book.

[Finch]

I suppose it is true.Yes, transfer responses to a club is another thing -- pairs who don't pre-alert this annoy me, because if you ask or even are seen to be looking at their convention card, you transmit tons of UI.I mentioned in a thread a long time ago about sitting down against a pair for a 2-board round. We had been following a very slow pair and often felt too rushed to examine the opponents' convention cards. On one of the boards they opened 2♣, 5-10 (or 0-5 or 0-10, I don't remember) points and at least one 4-card suit, but not a single-suiter in clubs. A first-time partnership, we didn't have any default agreements or anything like that. And the convention was not in the section about things the opponents should know, which would maybe have given us a chance of seeing it in advance. Fine, they didn't do anything illegal, but I was pretty annoyed. (You know who you are.)

 

 

It should not be the pairs that annoy you, they are just following EBU regulations and guidelines. It is the EBU Laws & Ethics Committee that should be the focus of your ire.

 

Blue Book 3K explains what should be put into that section. That includes "....artificial suit responses to opening bids..." so don't blame the L&E if someone hasn't filled in their card correctly.

[Finch]

I believe that in the EBU the major-suit response which could have longer diamonds is alertable, but the 1♦ response which tends not to have a major is not. This was made explicit in the old Orange Book; it is less clear in the new Blue Book.

 

This was deliberately removed from the Blue Book, because artificial responses to 1C have become so common that alerting Walsh as well just confuses matters.

[paulg]

It should not be the pairs that annoy you, they are just following EBU regulations and guidelines. It is the EBU Laws & Ethics Committee that should be the focus of your ire.

 

Blue Book 3K explains what should be put into that section. That includes "....artificial suit responses to opening bids..." so don't blame the L&E if someone hasn't filled in their card correctly.

Vampyr wants spoken pre-alerts. The lack of them is L&E policy. I'm not saying I agree with her, but if she wants to get annoyed it has nothing to do with the pairs she is playing against.