kgr Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 IMP's, teams[hv=pc=n&s=sqt952hakq95dt9c7&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=1sp2cp2hp3np]133|200[/hv]2♣=invite+; 3c♠ or ♣ (We don't play 2/1; 2♣ is not GF).2♥=4+c♥, forcing3NT=to play, other bids iso 3NT would be:- 2NT=10-11 HCP, NF- 2♠=3c♠, NF- 3♠=3c♠,SI- 3♣=6c♣, GF- 3♦=4th suit, GF- 3♥=4c♥, SI Do you pass 3NT or bid 4♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 If partner had 3 hearts and some potential for playing in hearts, he could bid 3D. He did not, so therefore he has not. I put down the dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 I have 3 quick tricks (a cornucopia compared to most opening bids these days) a singletonclub (could have been void) and the T9 of diamonds which may very well carry more than their full weight. P should not be disappointed with this dummy and the odds of a 53 heartfit being better are not that great anyway. There may be many ways to make 3n but onlya tiny number of ways to make 4h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 in 2/1 this is an easy pass, but on other systems not so much, I like bidding 4♥ with no strong conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 If partner has FSF available then we can assume he doesn't care that you might be 5/5 in the majors. So I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Partner knows within 1 card what my major suit holding is. Partner has summarily made a decision on where to play the contract, so I'll respect partner's decision. I pass. If 3 NT turns out to be wrong, then partner and I might have discussion about a better way to bid the hand. That's better than trying to explain why I bid 4 ♥ when playing 3 NT is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 PD didn't bid 3♦ as 4SF so he either doesn't have 3♥ or doesn't care if I am 5-5 in the majors. I have an easy pass here and suspect that he expect to stop ♦ twice. Perhaps my T9 can help in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Forgive the devil advocacy, but what is opener supposed to bid after FSF if he's 5-4 in the majors with no diamond stop? Is 3♠ an idle bid here?In other words, isn't it possible responder was worried about opener bypassing 3NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSClyde Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Forgive the devil advocacy, but what is opener supposed to bid after FSF if he's 5-4 in the majors with no diamond stop? Is 3♠ an idle bid here?In other words, isn't it possible responder was worried about opener bypassing 3NT?Agreed... I hate to be "that poster" but to me this highlights another of the many problems with not playing 2♣ as a game force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 4H - I have no choice unless I just get a kick out of pretending to be a great guesser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Agreed... I hate to be "that poster" but to me this highlights another of the many problems with not playing 2♣ as a game force.To me this highlights some problems with natural bidding generally. An artificial auction might start: 1♠ - 1NT (INV+); 2♦ (4+♥s) - 2♥ (GF); 2♠ (5+♥s or 54(40)) - 2NT (relay); 3♥ (5521) saving (at least) a level of bidding. Natural bidding tends to end up with some hands being good and some hands being bad, whereas artificiality is usually defined so as to even these fluctuations out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted October 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 NS hands and bidding:IMP's, teams[hv=pc=n&s=sqt952hakq95dt9c7&n=sjxhxxxdajxcaqxxx&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=1sp2cp2hp3np4hppp]233|200[/hv]2♣=invite+; 3c♠ or ♣ (We don't play 2/1; 2♣ is not GF).2♥=4+c♥, forcing3NT=to play, 4♥-1, 3NT made at the other table.(West had ♥JTxx) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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