〖美国大师讲座〗opening light in third seat

[DJNeill]

THIRD SEAT OPENINGS

 

The best time to open light is in 3rd seat:

- partner has passed, and therefore it is likely the opponents' hand

- if the opponents are to win the auction, we need to remove space, and possibly direct a lead (surely they will find the best contract most often when we Pass)

 

How light is light?

- if you would overcall at the 1-level, it is probably an ok hand to open light on (9+ decent suit)

 

Warnings:

- if you have 0-2 spades, and you open light with 1 of another suit, partner may bid 1S, what then?

- make sure you can Pass any response partner makes

- use Drury so as not to get too high with a fit, if 4th seat Passes

- BUT - in competition, use all normal raises - it is *probably* not a light opener, so do not assume so

- open a nice 4 card major if light, but not if full strength (then it might be your hand)

 

Weak twos:

- Third seat weak two NV can be a reasonable 5 cards with a singleton or void

- make sure partner knows this, and does not raise based on 6 cards

 

Light openings in third seat do not have to be alerted. It is expected.

 

Consider odd actions after 2nd seat opens as well - jump overcall at the 2-level with a 5 card suit, e.g. Make a takeout double at fav with 1 HCP.

 

In general: when partner has Passed, jump in as third seat!

 

Thanks,

Dan

[PhilKing]

错误的论坛

[hrothgar]

 

The best time to open light is in 3rd seat:

 

 

Huh?

 

I systemically play methods that open much lighter in first / second than they do in third / four...

[lycier]

THIRD SEAT OPENINGS

 

The best time to open light is in 3rd seat:

- partner has passed, and therefore it is likely the opponents' hand

- if the opponents are to win the auction, we need to remove space, and possibly direct a lead (surely they will find the best contract most often when we Pass)

 

How light is light?

- if you would overcall at the 1-level, it is probably an ok hand to open light on (9+ decent suit)

 

Warnings:

- if you have 0-2 spades, and you open light with 1 of another suit, partner may bid 1S, what then?

- make sure you can Pass any response partner makes

- use Drury so as not to get too high with a fit, if 4th seat Passes

- BUT - in competition, use all normal raises - it is *probably* not a light opener, so do not assume so

- open a nice 4 card major if light, but not if full strength (then it might be your hand)

 

Weak twos:

- Third seat weak two NV can be a reasonable 5 cards with a singleton or void

- make sure partner knows this, and does not raise based on 6 cards

 

Light openings in third seat do not have to be alerted. It is expected.

 

Consider odd actions after 2nd seat opens as well - jump overcall at the 2-level with a 5 card suit, e.g. Make a takeout double at fav with 1 HCP.

 

In general: when partner has Passed, jump in as third seat!

 

Thanks,

Dan

美国著名的桥牌教练，红丝带获得者，桥牌大师丹·尼尔应邀来到我们华人论坛，做专栏嘉宾主持人。希望大家积极跟帖讨论学习。

下面我把丹大师的原文翻译如下：

 

 

第三家的轻开叫

作者：丹·尼尔

 

轻开叫的最佳时机是第三家：

- 同伴应叫pass过了，因此定约很可能属于敌方。

- 如果是敌方赢得定约，我们需要消耗空间，可能是首攻指示性的（大多数通常情况下，当我方pass时，可以肯定敌方将会寻找到最佳定约）

 

那么，轻开叫有多轻？

 

- 如果你有能够在一阶争叫的一手牌，那么这手牌很可能就是适于轻开叫（9P+的好套子）

警告：

- 如果你有0-2张S，而你却轻开叫其他花色，同伴一旦可能应叫1S，那时你该如何处理好？

- 确保你可以pass同伴所作的任何应叫

- 第三家轻开叫，如果第四家pass，同伴使用德鲁利约定叫以免花色相配时定约太高。

- 但是！在竟叫进程中，使用所有的正常加叫 - 请不要以为同伴很可能不是轻开叫者。

- 轻开叫时，开叫4张好的花色；但如果正常点力开叫，就不要这样，因为最后定约可能属于你方。

 

弱二轻开：

- 第三家无局弱二可以是较好的5张花色，并有单缺的一手牌。

- 确保同伴知晓这一原理，不要作基于6张的加叫。

 

第三家的轻开叫不必提醒，这是可预料中的事情。

在第二家开叫后下列行动也同样地认为是古怪的：

5张花色套的在二阶上的跳争叫；用1hcp的牌做技术性加倍。

 

总而言之，当同伴pass后，投入第三家！

 

谢谢大家。

丹

[lycier]

Dan Neill大师是 意大利二盖一体系Ambra的贡献者，也是著名的波兰梅花WJ05体系的翻译者！著名的桥牌教练。

[dvd]

第3家的叫牌的确有很大的不同。

今天刚好在第3家拿了这样一幅牌：

s8xx hAQJT8 d9876 cJ

双无，前2家不叫，我选择了2h。打完同伴告诉我5张套不要叫2h，我回答道：套好的情况下是可以的（注意，现在是第3家且无局）；

阻击叫，特别是无局的第3家，我认为完全可以灵活处理，而pd不应该对第3家的阻击叫期望过高。

无局时，但凡有理由开叫或者阻击叫的牌，第3家一定要叫，尽可能的压缩第4家的叫牌空间。

对丹大师的以上观点非常认可，同时欢迎丹大师的到来。

[bgm]

Very pleased to hear one of the author of Ambra! Hope to learn Ambra in depth :)

[nbxkh]

very nice，hope for more lessons.

[yimujin09]

非常好，希望有更多的牌例讲解

[511927257]

写得灰常好，支持一下，期待下一期的讲座~默默学习了

[madongjun]

欢迎外国大师来到论坛讲座。

感谢专家给出的有理有据的对第三家开叫的论述，希望在将来的实践中，搭档能达成共识，共同把这种理念贯穿到我们的体系中去。

[000ffj]

THIRD SEAT OPENINGS

 

The best time to open light is in 3rd seat:

- partner has passed, and therefore it is likely the opponents' hand

- if the opponents are to win the auction, we need to remove space, and possibly direct a lead (surely they will find the best contract most often when we Pass)

 

How light is light?

- if you would overcall at the 1-level, it is probably an ok hand to open light on (9+ decent suit)

 

Warnings:

- if you have 0-2 spades, and you open light with 1 of another suit, partner may bid 1S, what then?

- make sure you can Pass any response partner makes

- use Drury so as not to get too high with a fit, if 4th seat Passes

- BUT - in competition, use all normal raises - it is *probably* not a light opener, so do not assume so

- open a nice 4 card major if light, but not if full strength (then it might be your hand)

 

Weak twos:

- Third seat weak two NV can be a reasonable 5 cards with a singleton or void

- make sure partner knows this, and does not raise based on 6 cards

 

Light openings in third seat do not have to be alerted. It is expected.

 

Consider odd actions after 2nd seat opens as well - jump overcall at the 2-level with a 5 card suit, e.g. Make a takeout double at fav with 1 HCP.

 

In general: when partner has Passed, jump in as third seat!

 

Thanks,

Dan

Welcome first!

and I got into trouble that my partner responded 2nt with 2 card suporting and about 11p when I openned 1M with good suit and 9p+.2nt contract was too high obvious for us in total 20p.Could you tell us how to avoid this thing happen?

[xhq]

Warmly welcome Master Dan Neill to our Discussion Forims and to lecture !

[lin8188]

♥还有人帮忙翻译，谢谢了。这样的讲座很有必要，顶一个！♥

[sfbcs]

谢谢Dan Neill大师！谢谢lycier翻译！

[xuefeier]

Thank you very much, Dan Neill master! Hope to see more about you!

[canghai13]

丹大师在教导我们：第三家轻开叫时，要多算几步，把各种情况想下再来决定是否轻开叫，叫什么花色，若是OP庄这个轻开叫花色有意义吗，同时自己的P也要注意自己的P开叫的位置。有实力时应正常开叫。谢谢丹大师！ :rolleyes:

[ynhhyjb]

学习了，非常好，就是少了点。

[lycier]

学习了，非常好，就是少了点。

 

内容多了，我哪有那么多时间翻译啊，大师马上附上具体牌例讲解。

奉劝大家把大师的讲座当作教科书课本背诵下来。

[nbxkh]

大伙可以轮流翻译，心烛一人翻译太辛苦。

[lycier]

大伙可以轮流翻译，心烛一人翻译太辛苦。

太好了，我太高兴了，请大家和我说，真心感谢不尽http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif

[wuhuan]

感谢丹大师的授课，谢谢心烛老师的翻译（我真的看不懂，哈哈）。

[shisun]

如果有牌例就更好了。谢谢。第三家的2h 学习了，要考虑对家的应叫！学习

[lycier]

如果有牌例就更好了。谢谢。第三家的2h 学习了，要考虑对家的应叫！学习

意见提得极是，我已经email给丹大师了，请耐心等待。

[DJNeill]

THIRD SEAT OPENINGS - EXAMPLES

 

1. Would you open 3rd seat 1♥ with:

 

a) x KT9xx Qxxx Axx - No. What if partner responds 1♠. You cannot Pass 1♠, and if you bid again, partner now knows for sure you have a full opener and may raise you more.

 

b) Axx Jxxxx KJ xxx - No. You now can handle any response (If partner bids 1♠, 1N, 2♦, 2♥ you Pass. If 2♣ (Drury) you return to 2♥). But now you don't want to open because partner will lead the hearts, which you don't want. Also, with bad trumps, it is easier for opponents to just defend and get a good score.

 

c) Axx KT9xx Qxx xx - Yes. You can handle any response (as ), and you want the lead (as [a]). Both conditions together mean we can open this 1♥.

 

2. Would you open 3rd seat NV 1♠ with:

 

a) AJTx xx xxx AQxx - Yes. Your suit is pretty good, and you are pretty sure it is not your hand, so may as well preempt. Also, you can Pass a 2♦ or 2♥ response.

 

b) Q9xx KQx x Kxxxx - No. Your suit is not good enough.

 

c) KJTx AQx xxxx Ax - No. Your suit is good, but your hand is full strength. You might have game (and partner will put you in 4♠ not 3N). Better to open 1D and get to the natural contract.

 

3. Would you open a weak two in 3rd seat, both NV, with:

 

a) QJTxx x Kxxx xxx - Yes. Your suit is solid, you have distribution.

 

b) Kxx xxx KQJxx xx - No. Your suit is nice, but 5332 is too balanced - partner will raise to 3♦ with 3 diamonds, and you will lose more tricks than expected. Try 1♦.

 

c) x AQJxxx xx xxxx - No. 3♥! This is third seat after all.

 

Thanks,

Dan