EricK Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 MP Pairs playing in a generally weak field with a weak-ish partner against a reasonable (in context) pair, without many system agreements.[hv=pc=n&e=sa9752hak8765dajc&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=1hp3np]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 In my partnership the 3nt bid promises a 4x3 12-15 count so I can just blast 6♥. Probably right to do that anyway as the opening lead is likely to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 6he should be enough for a good score in a weak field. It is conceivable that 6sp is better but with a weak p you probably can't find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Would partner pass 4♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Would partner pass 4♠?I have no idea! This thread is partly to vent as partner's hand was Qx xx Kxx AKQTxx I bid 6[H] and went 1 off when [C]J didn't drop. But I am interested how the bidding should/could have gone if partner had made a more sensible first bid. Where would you have ended up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJNeill Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 6♥. I think 3N by a weak partner is 3244'ish but I have more faith in partner having a doubleton heart than a tripleton spade (he won't have 4 spades). Several random minimums give reasonable slam chances. I think the field will probably be bumbling their way towards slam too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 It never comes up, but it's on my "2nd priority" list of things to discuss - what's 3NT after 1M? Never in my wildest dreams would I expect a game forcing hand with clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 I have no idea! This thread is partly to vent as partner's hand was Qx xx Kxx AKQTxx I bid 6[H] and went 1 off when [C]J didn't drop. But I am interested how the bidding should/could have gone if partner had made a more sensible first bid. Where would you have ended up?WestQ x, x x, K x x, A K Q T x x EastA 9 x x x, A K 8 x x x, A J, void East West1H - 2C ( 2/1 GF )2S ( at least 4/5 ).... - 3C3S ( 5/6 ) .... - 3NT or 4Hpass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Your "weakish" PD could use some common sense bidding lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 I have no idea! This thread is partly to vent as partner's hand was Qx xx Kxx AKQTxx I bid 6[H] and went 1 off when [C]J didn't drop. But I am interested how the bidding should/could have gone if partner had made a more sensible first bid. Where would you have ended up?Assuming 2/1 gf: 1♥ 2♣2♠ 2N3♠ 4♥ I think that responder can't afford more than 4♥ and that should be enough....the auction shouts that his club length isn't that useful, and while the spade Q is a good card, I think we need a little more to push beyond game. We are unlimited to this point and therefore should limit ourselves. Opener has a great hand that has actually become worse with the bidding. The Axxxx in spades, in particular, is a worry. Partner is marked with a doubleton trump, so we are probably not establishing spades, which means we are having to pitch them, which in turn means very good clubs and the diamond Ace and even then we have trump issues. I am not sure that I wouldn't make a generic slam try with 5♥ but I like to think I'd pass. I'm generally conservative anyway, so I think I would pass in real life but, as I often do, I'd be thinking maybe I owe partner one try. I do think that responder, when partner bids, say, 5♥ rather than keycarding, can infer that partner is more interested in the majors than the minors, and choose to pass..whether he can infer the void due to the lack of keycard is another question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Your partner did not bid it well for a good field. In a weak field there is something to be said for an immediate 3NT. Anyway, I would bid 4H. The 6H bidders are having a rush of blood to the head. There are a lot of S to get rid of and the C void does not augur well for setting up Cs for no loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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