cherdano Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=sq74haq76432dt7ct]133|100|Scoring: IMPP-(P)-3♥-(X)-P-(4♣)-AP[/hv]You are not exactly upset that your preempt pushed your opponents to the dream spot of 4♣. What's your stab at beating this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 I voted for the A of hearts, usually its wrong to lead aces but i think its ok here, atleast least of evil.The opponents bidding suggest that K of heart wont be in RHO hand and the chances of it being with LHO arent great either, also LHO will usually have 4 spades which make the spade lead less atractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 spade for me. Good agressive lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 DT for me. Good aggressive lead, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Not sure what good a diamond lead would do.. the chance that your partner can win the first two diamond tricks is quite low. The heart ace might work, but the queen makes it quite likely that it gives up a trick. I'm going for a low spade, ace of hearts second choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 The title of this topic is only confusing all of us imo. Is it a trick question? <_< Anyway, I think ♠Q has a nice chance of being a lead which creates some action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 ♥A because i don't know what to do <_< .... maybe pard can signal something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Not sure what good a diamond lead would do.. the chance that your partner can win the first two diamond tricks is quite low. The heart ace might work, but the queen makes it quite likely that it gives up a trick. I'm going for a low spade, ace of hearts second choice. A low spade is not without risk. Declarer could have STx or SJx. If pd has DAQ, at least I can get a ruff. Even if pd has only DA, if he like, he can return H. DT is relatively safe in my opinion. Any lead could be right or wrong. If it is obvious, posters will not post it here at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 I lead ♥A here but I'm not sure it's good. "Don't lead from aces?"My partner likes leading low from an ace. When he leads and declarer takes by an ace I know that my partner has no ace <_<It sometimes gives a trick to declarer and sometimes it's a perfect lead. The problem is (for example):[hv=n=s&w=s&e=sqx&s=skt9x]399|300|suit contractlow card was lead, small from dummy[/hv]Normal is to play nine. But when partner has the ace..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 A of H. Not unlikely pard can get a ruff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Just lead your longest suit, since ♥ is headed by Ace I'll switcht to second longest: ♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 I think I would lead DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 I think I would lead DT You of all ppl i would expect to lead the A of heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 This is a good lead problem. My thinking for what it is worth. 1) Spades: LHO is not apt to hold 4 spades else he would have bid them instead of Clubs. RHO will tend to have 4 spades for his t.o. dble, leaving 4-5 spades in partner's hand. 2) Hearts: RHO rates to hold 1-2 hearts, leaving 4/5 in the remaining hands, or an expectation 2 1/2 in each hand, most likely 2 in partner's hand as he did not further the pre-empt with a 4H bid, but this is only minor maybe. 3) Diamonds: RHO is likely to hold 3, 4, 5 diamonds for the double, more likey 4. LHO bid clubs instead of diamonds, leaving some number of diamond length in partner's hand. Most likely is 4/5 based on 4432 or 5332 distribution of the diamond suit. 4) Clubs: Most likely distributions for LHO are 3334, 2345, 3245, 2335 or 3235, although a more distributional hand is possible - however it is unlikely as he is marked with a modicum of HCP's yet did not try for any game contract. 5) Most likely distributions for RHO for his double seem to be 4144, 4234, 4243, 5233, 5143, 5134, or 5233. Certainly others are possible. 6) Most likely distributions for LHO are 3235, 2344, 3244, 3325, 2245, or 3334. Seems at least 1/2 or more of the time they have found a 9-card fit. 7) Partner's likely distribution: 4344, 4243, 4234, 5143, 5134, or 4153. Now, what to lead? If I lead heart A and a heart and partner ruffs, we still need two more tricks and I have no fast reentry. Besides, that may blow a trick when RHO has doubled on Kx of hearts or when either opp holds Kxx in hearts. Seems that in most cases LHO has a balanced or semibalanced hand and RHO has not the ruffing power. If they have found a 5/4 or 5/3 fit, we may be able to cut down on the ruffs in RHO's hand. I go passive/aggressive and lead a trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikos59 Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 This is not going to be a match-breaker, I guess,so I yawn and lead ace of hearts without strongfeelings. At imps, really, the fate of 4C isalmost irrelevant. Either the swing is minimalor the board has been already won or lostat the bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 A of heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 This is not going to be a match-breaker, I guess,so I yawn and lead ace of hearts without strongfeelings. At imps, really, the fate of 4C isalmost irrelevant. Either the swing is minimalor the board has been already won or lostat the bidding. Really?? If the other table plays 3♥ - 1, then there is a 6 IMP difference between 4♣ making and going down. Same if they play 3♣=, or 4♣=, or 3NT-1. Even if your team mates bid and make 3NT, there are 2 IMPs up for claims at your table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 1) Spades: LHO is not apt to hold 4 spades else he would have bid them instead of Clubs. RHO will tend to have 4 spades for his t.o. dble, leaving 4-5 spades in partner's hand. I think you read it wrongly. LHO dbled, he rates to have spades, not RHO. If RHO has spades, he would bid it, as u said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 You are right...I did see this wrong and thought RHO had doubled. Certainly not the first or last time I've seen or will see things corsseyed, I'm afraid> :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikos59 Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 This is not going to be a match-breaker, I guess,so I yawn and lead ace of hearts without strongfeelings. At imps, really, the fate of 4C isalmost irrelevant. Either the swing is minimalor the board has been already won or lostat the bidding. Really?? If the other table plays 3♥ - 1, then there is a 6 IMP difference between 4♣ making and going down. Same if they play 3♣=, or 4♣=, or 3NT-1. Even if your team mates bid and make 3NT, there are 2 IMPs up for claims at your table. Yes, we totally agree: if the *maximum* potential swingis a measly 6 imps then the swing is really minimal andit is almost not worth to bother about this board. Relax,this is not matchpoints, you can afford it. (And I know that many a match has been won or lost by5, 3, or 1 imp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 6 measly IMPs? never heard that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Time for the full hand I suppose:[hv=d=w&v=b&n=s3hj9d9632cak6543&w=sjt962hk8dkq54c98&e=sq74haq76432dt7ct&s=sak85ht5daj8cqj72]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]As you can see, anything except a heart leads to immediate defeat. On the heart Ace, your partner has to drop the king. I guess my partner would have found this, but I lead a spade instead. I think I now like the ♥A best. Btw, does anyone here play XX by partner as "please lead hearts"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Didnt understand why partner has to drop the K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Didnt understand why partner has to drop the K. So you can lead a diamond now... only way to four tricks. If your partner wins, he will eventually be endplayed after spades are elminated and a diamond hook goes to his king or queen. You can't afford to switch to diamond at trick two, or the ACE wins, and a heart is discarded on a top spade. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Didnt understand why partner has to drop the K. So you can lead a diamond now... only way to four tricks. If your partner wins, he will eventually be endplayed after spades are elminated and a diamond hook goes to his king or queen. You can't afford to switch to diamond at trick two, or the ACE wins, and a heart is discarded on a top spade. Ben You mean after a diamond to the 8.Well this is nice and true but i still dont know if its right to play the K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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