haver Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 As South u have: [hv=d=w&v=e&s=sq3hqj52dq5caj1074]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Bidding goes: Pass - 1CL - 2NT (alerted as Dia + Hearts at least 5-5) - ? over to u :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 3C. Probably someone will find a clever bid,but it's the only one I can see besides Pass,which I can't do. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 This hand is not very good in the sense of the card quality. But still 3C is a bit underbid. Dbl shows you can dbl one of opp's suit. I think you should at least try for a game. I will bid 3H. This shows stopper and limit plus raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LH2650 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Double, nominally penalty for at least 1 of their suits, followed by 3H over their 3D. Expect to get to 3N if partner has diamonds stopped, and 4C otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 3♦ = Limit + in clubs. Tempting to double, but colors wrong. I expect 3♠ from pard and I will try 3N. I know this is a good hand for the stopper showing bids, but I don't play that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 When 2 suits are known, bidding the lowest means inv+ in the lowest suit they don't have, bidding the highest means inv+ in the highest suit they don't have. Here ♦ and ♥ are known, so bidding 3♦ means inv+ in ♣, 3♥ would mean inv+ in ♠. 3♦ would show your hand. Dbl shows penalty in at least 1 of the suits. Imo you have a penalty Dbl for ♥, so Dbl might just work out fine. Dbl for me! [EDIT]: this is how I play it :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Frederick; many play the cue bid shows values for game and a stop in the suit bid. So they'd bid 3♥ leading to a painless 3N if pard has diamond stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 X. Don't see a problem. My hand is very defensive, if pard can crack diamonds they are screwed, and i can crack hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 X. Don't see a problem. My hand is very defensive, if pard can crack diamonds they are screwed, and i can crack hearts. Only problem is the vulnerability and the 5th club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Double, nominally penalty for at least 1 of their suits, followed by 3H over their 3D. Expect to get to 3N if partner has diamonds stopped, and 4C otherwise. I'm all with LH2650. I don't double because I want to defend. I double because I expect them to bid 3D, and then I can bid 3H, showing a stoppper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 I bid 3♦. 3♣ are passable3♦ shows clubs and strong hand.3♥ is strong hand with spades.3♠ is natural and passable.(General rule: their suits are used to show strong hand, our suits are passable) Double would be penalty with at least one of opponent's suit.We are not able to show a hand with only 4 spades but it's not a good idea to play on 4-4 fit after 5-5 overcall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Double... You heart QJxx are good for defense, useless on offense, your Qx of diamonds have a chance to be useful on defense, impotent on offense. Your club ACE is a useful defensive card. The good thing about double is if they escape to 3♦ and partner does not wack that, you can retreat to clubs... and if he does double it, your ♦Q will be working on defense. And if they bid hearts? Yummy. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 X. Don't see a problem. My hand is very defensive, if pard can crack diamonds they are screwed, and i can crack hearts. Only problem is the vulnerability and the 5th club. I think it says THEy are vulnerable, wich makes the double clear IMO, other vulnerabiliy would make me think deeper. I play that cue when they bid 2 suits shows stopper here, it also does unless they had bid bith minors, then ♣ shows ♥ and ♦ shows ♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 X. Don't see a problem. My hand is very defensive, if pard can crack diamonds they are screwed, and i can crack hearts. Only problem is the vulnerability and the 5th club. I think it says THEy are vulnerable, wich makes the double clear IMO, other vulnerabiliy would make me think deeper. I play that cue when they bid 2 suits shows stopper here, it also does unless they had bid bith minors, then ♣ shows ♥ and ♦ shows ♠. Oh - misread it. Clear double then. Hey - the 5th club isn't THAT bad either - makes for a nice tap suit. Scrumptious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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