Bidding against pre-empt by vulnerable passed hand

[EricK]

[hv=pc=n&s=sq8532hdk74ckjt95&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=pp3hpp]133|200[/hv]

 

What call do you make here? And how clear do you think the decision is?

[wyman]

Double, fairly.

 

edit: I cannot bid 4C showing C&S. It's less clear imo if I can do that. Also influencing my decision is what I know about opps. But against a random, I'm doubling. I expect that partner will pass a lot, and if not, I won't be too embarrassed to put down 5 card support and a void. If he bids diamonds, I'll hope for the best and probably mutter "preempts work."

[gnasher]

If I can bid 4♣ showing clubs and spades, I do that. Otherwise I bid 4♥, Michaels.

 

Not clear at all - I also considered double, 3♠ and pass.

[ggwhiz]

Double, fairly

 

Double, 80%?

 

Partner may well have the heart stack or a 4 triple weak nt that plays well in a game or two.

 

This is a really nice dummy if they pull and it's very unlikely that a passed hand opposite a pre-empt can double us or that we go down more than 1.

 

ps. as per below it was my oops, corrected now

[wyman]

To be clear, I didn't ninja edit my post or anything (I label with "edit" when I edit), so "very. 80%?" was not part of my post, and I'm not sure whether it was a FYP or what the intent was.

[ahydra]

The hand feels horrible for bidding but I guess partner is marked with values, so 3S can't be too bad.

 

ahydra