VM1973 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 [hv=lin=pn|levlev,tltolu,VM1973,joe_k_3|st||md|2S7H368TQKD24JQC39,S45AH2D569KC2457T,S389JKH4JD78C6JQA,|rh||ah|Board 100|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg||pc|D3|pc|DJ|pc|DK|pc|D7|pg||pc|H2|pc|HJ|pc|HA|pc|H3|pg||pc|H5|pc|HK|pc|S4|pc|H4|pg||pc|D6|pc|D8|pc|DA|pc|D2|pg||pc|H7|pc|HQ|pc|S5|pc|S8|pg||pc|CQ|pc|CK|pc|C3|pc|C2|pg||pc|C8|pc|C9|pc|CT|pc|CJ|pg||pc|C6|pc|DT|pc|S7|pc|C4|pg||pc|DQ|pc|D5|pc|CA|pc|S2|pg||pc|H9|pc|HT|pc|SA|pc|S3|pg||pc|C5|pc|SJ|pc|SQ|pc|D4|pg||pc|S6|pc|H6|pc|D9|pc|S9|pg||pc|SK|pc|ST|pc|H8|pc|C7|pg||]400|300[/hv] Playing with a partner, no previous discussion, we reached 2♠. Suggest the best contract and a reasonable auction to reach it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Assuming you're playing some sort of 2/1, I think 2♥ is a gross over bid. Standard, and ptobably best, is 1♠-1NT (forcing)-2♣-2♥-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 VM you're finding your share of bad partners today. In S/A systems a 2/1 promises a rebid so PD isn't good enough for 2♥. Anyhow the WTP sequence is 1♠-1NT (whether forcing or not) 2♣-2♥ PASS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Playing either 2/1 (i.e. Forcing NT after a major opening) or standard, the auction turns out to be the same -- 1 ♠ - 1 NT - 2 ♣ - 2 ♥. Playing standard, a 1 NT response to a 1 of a major opening is a catch all response that just shows someplace between 5-10 value. There's absolutely no guarantees about stoppers or distribution. Opener can pass the 1 NT response with a flat minimum hand. Believe me, playing standard over the years, I've played 1 NT with some pretty strange looking hands when partner passed with a minimum 5-3-3-2 hand. With a lower ranking second 4 card suit, as in the hand queried about here, opener will normally bid it. It allows responder to take a preference or possibly bid a long suit if one is held. Here that's what should happen (i.e. 2 ♥). Opener with minimum values and a tolerance for ♥s should pass 2 ♥. Playing 2/1, a 1 NT response to 1 of a major is forcing for 1 round. Again it is still a catch all response, but shows a wider range of values -- someplace between 5-12 value. After the Forcing NT response, opener only rebids his major with 6+ cards in the suit. With only 5 cards in the major, opener normally bids a lower ranking 4 card suit, or, without a 4 card suit rebids his lowest ranking 3 card suit. Any further rebid by responder below 2 NT shows 5-8 value and is non forcing. So here after opener rebids 2 ♣, responder rebids 2 ♥ to show his heart length and opener passes. It looks like in the actual auction, South overbid by bidding 2 ♥, then couldn't find another bid when opener rebid his major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 It doesn't matter on this hand if 1N is forcing or not, north is 54 so will bid 2C. 1S-1N-2C-2H is normal in most commonly played systems, and voila it works out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Well, in fairness, it's probably a 2♥ response in most ACOL variants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM1973 Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Well, in fairness, it's probably a 2♥ response in most ACOL variants.Assuming it was an ACOL variant, how would the bidding go thereafter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Assuming it was an ACOL variant, how would the bidding go thereafter?1♠-2♥2♠-3♥pass By the way, it's "Acol", not "ACOL", just as it's "Precision" not "PRECISION". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM1973 Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Well I didn't know so I just followed the way the person above me had written it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 This is not an interesting bridge hand; it belongs in N/B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM1973 Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 This is not an interesting bridge hand; it belongs in N/B.Sorry administrator. Surely you'll have no difficulty in moving it to the correct forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 1♠-2♥2♠-3♥pass By the way, it's "Acol", not "ACOL", just as it's "Precision" not "PRECISION". Depends on agreements (we play 3♥ GF), many people will pass 2♠, 3♥ deserves 6 spades and 0-1♥. Make J♥ a small spade, do you really want to bid 3♥ here ? particularly on a club lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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