Is this a TO double?

[Trinidad]

IMO Pass = 10, Double = 9. Our partnership-agreement is that 2nd-seat action is sound. So we share a cell with Fluffy and the other snakes until we learn to trust in KAA :)

I'll pass and join you, Fluffy and the other snakes in jail. I will bring a deck of cards.

 

I do think it is awfully close.

 

The point is that double says that I want our side to declare. But I have KAA. While it is true that these are good cards for offense, they are also excellent cards to have on defense.

 

If you give me 3x KJxx + a singleton heart then I have a boring, aceless hand that is less suited for offense than the KAA hand, but a takeout double is clear: I don't want to defend a heart contract.

 

On the actual KAA hand I am very willing to defend against a heart contract. Then I shouldn't make a marginal takeout double.

 

Rik

[ggwhiz]

Next time I see a close balancing decision say after 2♥ - p - p to me I must remember to ask if my partner is Justin or Fluffy. And if we are playing for $$, I'll bring my own deck thank you.

[akwoo]

Questions:

 

1) Is Lebensohl assumed?

 

2) What is the minimum for partner to jump directly over a TO double?

 

My answers:

 

1) No.

 

2) A decent 10hcp, say ♠KQx ♥xx ♦xxx ♣KQxxx

 

So I pass.

[PhilG007]

I would not bid on this hand. However I would certainly double! :lol:

 

But double IS a bid(!) :blink:

[gordontd]

But double IS a bid(!) :blink:

No, it is a call, not a bid - that was his point.

[RGranville]

In my view this is a clear-cut pass.

 

Make the clubs Jxx and I would probably still pass, although it's now close.

 

I realise that we might occasionally miss a game by not doubling, but it's much more likely that neither side can make anything, or that we suffer a heavy penalty.

[PhilG007]

No, it is a call, not a bid - that was his point.

 

Here we go again.....splitting hairs(!) <_<

[the hog]

Here we go again.....splitting hairs(!) http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif

 

No, being accurate.