lycier Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|000ffj,zyfozyf,lycier,sleekrain|st%7C%7Cmd%7C3S2TH479D25789KCTQ%2CS367JAH28QD4TC368%2CS58KH3KD36AC2459K%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%205%7Csv%7Cn%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7C2%2B%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7C2C%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cmc%7C8%7C]499|350[/hv] 结果:4♥E-2 评论:我个人东西家这是计点制叫牌的牺牲品,不是现代桥牌的注重估值计算的科学叫牌。 参考另一桌非计点制下的叫牌:结果2♥E= [hv=sn=|lin=pn|nbxkh,xhq,wqiqiqi,dvd|st%7C%7Cmd%7C3S2TH479D25789KCTQ%2CS367JAH28QD4TC368%2CS58KH3KD36AC2459K%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%205%7Csv%7Cn%7Cmb%7C1C%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cmc%7C8%7C]499|350[/hv] 评论:那么就请dvd说说,在2♥后,为什么没有进行进局试探? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|000ffj,zyfozyf,lycier,sleekrain|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S2H29TQKDQKC3459T%2CS789JQH4568JD2C7K%2CS35KH7D36789JAC8J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%208%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3D%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7C4D%7Cmb%7C4S%7Cmb%7C5D%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CST%7C]499|350[/hv]结果:5♠W-1评论:轻率竟叫上五阶,导致输分6imps。如果选择惩罚性加倍呢?这牌胜负出入可就更大了!五阶上的定约永远属于敌人!金玉良言也! 另一桌结果:3♠W+1 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|nbxkh,xhq,wqiqiqi,dvd|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S2H29TQKDQKC3459T%2CS789JQH4568JD2C7K%2CS35KH7D36789JAC8J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%208%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1C%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7C2D%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CHK%7C]499|350[/hv] 评论:不理解北家为何一反常态不3♦阻击性开叫。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|000ffj,zyfozyf,lycier,sleekrain|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S269H578JQKD9C468%2CSTQH39TAD2567TACA%2CS3H2D48JKC2357TQK%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2023%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7Ch6%20weak%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%21%7Can%7Cnon-forcing%7Cmb%7C3S%7Cmb%7C4C%7Cmb%7C4H%7Cmb%7C5C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5D%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7C5S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cmc%7C11%7C]499|350[/hv] 结果:5♠E=评论:我们的哈代体系规定:弱二开叫后应叫三阶低花不逼叫,这和一般人所理解的"标准叫牌法"是迥然有异的。这就是具体的实例,由此我们看出2H定约如果遭受惩罚,至少下二,而3C定约是mk的。而争叫3C增大了叫牌的复杂性。 另一桌结果:4♠E+1 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|nbxkh,xhq,SHXINGJSTZ,dvd|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S269H578JQKD9C468%2CSTQH39TAD2567TACA%2CS3H2D48JKC2357TQK%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2023%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C2H%7Cmb%7C3D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cmc%7C11%7C]499|350[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|000ffj,zyfozyf,lycier,sleekrain|st%7C%7Cmd%7C4S4H248AD9KAC3589J%2CS7KH69KD2567TJC4T%2CS89TQAH35D348QC7A%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2030%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7CH%2BS%20weak%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3N%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cmc%7C7%7C]499|350[/hv] 结果:3NW-1 东家子雨采用艾克伦斯 2♥开叫,是前些年较为先进的假定耦合的理论。该约定叫主要是受到了斯堪的纳维亚人的喜爱(值得挪威,瑞典和丹麦),尤其是挪威全国都使用挪威艾克伦斯大师的理论。 艾克伦斯 2♥开叫定义:4-4高花分布,6-10P;有局时,要求牌力上调,避免受罚。开叫2H后:.新花色应叫=自然,不逼叫,建设性叫品;开叫人任何再叫,都是暗示或表示有3张+的配合。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 这牌表面上算是15p,但是QJ太多,特别是sQxx,dQJ都是非常差的点,这样的15p甚至还不如某些好的13p; 而同伴只能加叫到2h,如果是低限时3h都非常危险,而希望4hmk就更遥远了; 拿这样的牌,即便自己属于比较激进的风格,喜欢摸局,这样的牌也只能选择pass。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 5s在北上了sK后已经mk了啥,继续掉将没有看懂。不盖sK才是防守杀招,2边都出现了失误,结果还是-1. 老许这边,我认为在我加叫2s(4+支持)后,应该对这手牌进行重新估值,s至少54+的配合,cKx也很理想,而同伴可能在h和d上没有什么废点,完全够3d邀请进局; 如果3d出来,我必然会叫到4s。实战这样的2spass则过于消极了; 如何随着叫牌的过程中不断的调整自己的牌的估值,是个比较复杂的问题,大家平时要多注意总结,积累经验。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 同伴开叫2H/2S,3C不逼叫,就相当于NFB(负自由叫),弊多于利。 如果对方不加倍,我不会用弱牌去试图改进同伴的2阶定约。 比较通用的应该是RONF(只有加叫不逼叫)。如果采用3C不逼叫,当有一手强牌,面临同伴的弱2开叫,就没有了好的叫品。2N只在比较均型的牌,想邀局时的叫品。什么牌都采用2NT逼叫,出花色就必须至少在4阶,不是好的选择。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 大牌点只是一个参考。DQJ双张要扣除。剩下12点,5-3-3-2型,不应该做成局试探。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 这副牌的丢局,不好说是西一个人的责任。东持4张SA10xx支持,旁门两个A,够叫2.5S。3D后该叫3S,或者在同伴的3S后进局。 西有第5张S,长H,短D,CK都是优势,但毕竟缺乏控制,不敢邀叫也可以理解。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0club Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 题目与所述内容是相反的。这个牌例对东西而言,是肯定争叫5阶的。合适的牌型,OPP花色上无实力。N上K也给了庄家机会。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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