Rule of 15 and other proverbs

[mgoetze]

♠K ♥A872 ♦73 ♣KQT974

 

3 passes to you, under which conditions (if any) do you open?

[broze]

Vs. weaker opps: open, vs. stronger opps: pass. Generally leaning towards pass though.

[mikestar13]

Clear opening in any seat IMHO. Rule of 15 was intended for borderline openers.

[ggwhiz]

Rule of 15 applies unless you are willing to go to the 3-level and on these cards I am.

[nige1]

♠K ♥A872 ♦73 ♣KQT974. 3 passes to you, under which conditions (if any) do you open?

The decision is close. IMO, at MPs, you should open with a tolerant partner. At imps, perhaps, you should be more wary because (rarely) opponents will wake up and bid a making game in spades. Tim Rees argues that, often, Pearson points are a poor yardstick for 4th seat openers, because, for example...

• Openers tend to be light in 3rd seat but sound in 2nd seat so you are likely to have the balance of the points.
• Spades probably break badly for opponents when you have a spade singleton or void and nobody has opened.

[Siegmund]

Under what conditions would I open? If I had a fourth seat weak two in clubs, I suppose....

 

Rule of 15 is one of the more reliable proverbs, even if not 100% perfect. I don't see any particular reason to believe good things will happen if we get involved.

[jdeegan]

:P Open this hand? You gotta be kidding. Conceivably at MP if I needed a board. At IMP's a terminal offense - i.e. if my partner ever did such a thing, we are through for good.

[Finch]

At IMP's a terminal offense - i.e. if my partner ever did such a thing, we are through for good.

 

My partner and I have a rule in our county league which is never to pass a board out.

He once felt obliged to open a 9-count in 4th seat as a consequence. We still ended up positive on the hand.

The only really expensive one was a perfectly good 12-count after which the opponents bid and made 3NT!

 

p.s. this is not an undertaking to opponents. I can give you some hands we would pass in 4th seat.

 

I never pass boards out at matchpoints. I always get a bad board when I do.

[nige1]

My partner and I have a rule in our county league which is never to pass a board out. He once felt obliged to open a 9-count in 4th seat as a consequence. We still ended up positive on the hand. The only really expensive one was a perfectly good 12-count after which the opponents bid and made 3NT! p.s. this is not an undertaking to opponents. I can give you some hands we would pass in 4th seat. I never pass boards out at matchpoints. I always get a bad board when I do.

At MP, should partner alert your 4th suit openers?

[MrAce]

Although i usually tend to pass when i am short in spades this is a 12 hcp 6-4 hand. ♠ K is stiff but i never throw out the whole value of a single honor.

 

 

I really wanna open 3♣ , if we have a ♥ fit they probably have ♠ fit and if we lose the competition it is not end of the world, we have defensive values. But 1♣ is of course the normal bid if we decide to open