benlessard Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sj853hqt63dq853ck&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1h1s2h2sp3dp]133|200[/hv]MP3D is natural game try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I'd bid game. I have an extra trump, a fit for partner's side-suit, and a singleton opposite partner's 2- or 3-card holding. Wasn't this worth a mixed raise on the previous round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Wasn't this worth a mixed raise on the previous round? How do you want him to do w/o custom agreements over 2♥ ? 2 NT artificial perhaps ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 game of course.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 How do you want him to do w/o custom agreements over 2♥ ? 2 NT artificial perhaps ?Perhaps that's the subject for another thread - I started typing an answer, then realised it was a rather egregious threadjack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sj853hqt63dq853ck&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1h1s2h2sp3dp]133|200 MP3D is natural game try.[/hv] IMO 4♣ = 10, 4♠ = 9, 3♥ = 6, 3♠ = 5 I'd bid game. I have an extra trump, a fit for partner's side-suit, and a singleton opposite partner's 2- or 3-card holding.Wasn't this worth a mixed raise on the previous round? After 1♠ (2♥) ??, we play2/3/4♠ = Pre-empt (We would raise to 3♠ with the given hand)2N = Sound 4 card raise.3♥ = UCB, usually sound 3-card raise.New suit jump = Splinter.Other bids = Natural.But we'd appreciate suggestions for better methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Wrong forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 If partner is 5143 game will be very easy, if he is 5152 he will be a bit weaker but still game will roll home between 50 and 60% so its fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Clear accept for me. The way I learned this is, partner is not asking how good my hand is. He is asking solely about my diamonds. I have length and a fitting honor there, ergo accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I think bypassing 2S with a mixed raise on the first round is just plain wrong. You do have 4 trumps and a singleton however you have good defensive prospect so you ll be able to easily buy the hand in 2S/3S and not being afraid of further competition. If overcaller cannot bid 3S over 3H with the stiff H you probably dont want to be in 3S anyway. Also outside the stiff clubs your values are shady and versus an agressive overcall you could go end up for -200 way too easily. My partner also bid 4S AKQxxxxA9xxxx 4S was making because West was marked with the K of D and it was doubleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 AKQxxxxA9xxxx 4S was making because West was marked with the K of D and it was doubleton. Did you have reason to think it was doubleton? If not, the intrafinesse would probably be better odds. There are six ways that the diamonds can be KHx-Hx, against four ways for him to have Kx and one for him to have a singleton king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I'm bidding 4S. I have a clear accept with diamond length, club shortage, and partner's marked heart shortage to go with my 4th trump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Looks like a double fit so I am accepting the game try. PD is short ♥ and on a lucky day may show up with the A or Q♣ so my K isn't worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Did you have reason to think it was doubleton? If not, the intrafinesse would probably be better odds. There are six ways that the diamonds can be KHx-Hx, against four ways for him to have Kx and one for him to have a singleton king. LHO started with A of H and switched to a trump he also showed the A of C. xxAxx???Axxxx? xKJxxxK??QJTx? I thought it was likely that RHO had a 5th club for the opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 LHO started with A of H and switched to a trump he also showed the A of C. xxAxx???Axxxx? xKJxxxK??QJTx? I thought it was likely that RHO had a 5th club for the opening. That seems a good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 :P An easy 4♠. We lose one club, one heart and one diamond. We win seven spades and three diamonds. At least that is what it looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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