CSGibson Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=saqt73hkdak874cq5&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=2c(10-15%20HCP%2C%206+%20clubs%2C%20could%20have%20a%204%20or%205%20card%20major)3h(preemptive)]133|200[/hv] Playing precision, partner opens a 2♣ showing 10-15 HCP, 6+ clubs, and which does not deny a 4 or 5 card major. After the preempt, new suits by you would be natural and forcing, partner would raise the suit with Hx or xxx. X would be take-out oriented. What's your bidding plan over 3♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJNeill Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=saqt73hkdak874cq5&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=2c(10-15%20HCP%2C%206+%20clubs%2C%20could%20have%20a%204%20or%205%20card%20major)3h(preemptive)]133|200[/hv] Playing precision, partner opens a 2♣ showing 10-15 HCP, 6+ clubs, and which does not deny a 4 or 5 card major. After the preempt, new suits by you would be natural and forcing, partner would raise the suit with Hx or xxx. X would be take-out oriented. What's your bidding plan over 3♥? Hi,I double and then RKC for whatever partner bids. If partner rebids 3N, I'm still thinking. Thanks,Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I'll bid 3♠, if partner raises ask for keycards. If partner doesn't raise, I'll bid 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Count me in the 3♠ camp. I'll try slam in a black suit (unless partner bids Diamonds naturally). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJNeill Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 double-posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sathyab Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 3♠, follow it up with 4♦. I have a two-suiter and there's only one way losers in those two suits can be covered: by high cards or controls in those two suits specifically. If partner who had bid 3nt over 3♠ rebids 4nt now or 5♣, pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 If I bid 3♠ and partner raises, I am screwed. I think keycarding is very gambly. For one, slam may be poor opposite two key cards and the five level in spades is not safe. I prefer double, but I think the best answer is to just bid 4♥. Showing a slam try in clubs should work out well - after all, that is exactly what we have. If partner signs off, I will respect his opinion, but opposite any other call, I will drive to slam. Over 4♥ I play that 4NT by pard shows slam interest with no spade control. If you don't have that agreement, the situation is not so clear, but that is not my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Over 4♥ I play that 4NT by pard shows slam interest with no spade control. If you don't have that agreement, the situation is not so clear, but that is not my problem. We have that agreement as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Chalk me up for 4♥. The bid probably doesn't get the ♦ suit across, but we have at least a 8-card fit in ♣s if partner doesn't like ♠. We don't have any explicit follow ups after the bid and anything except a black suit game bid should be forward going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 On one assumption (opener has at least 2 QT) I will start 3♠ and let the auction develop. 3N from partner would suggest few values in the pointed suits (I'd feel better if partner held the ♥K). I'll try 4♦ next, intending to correct the expected 4N or 5♣ to 5N Pick a slam. If partner raises to 4♠ on Hx/xxx I hope s/he would call 4♥ with 4 ♠ cards. Would you expect ♠Kx ♥Axx ♦xx ♣KJ10xxx to rebid 3N, 4♣, or 4♠? I would expect 3N. That hand looks pretty good for 6♣ or maybe 6N and a quantitative 4N won't get us there. If partner has no values in ♥ then we want to be in a suit slam. Finding a ♦ fit after partner opens 2♣ is notoriously difficult. Going slow helps. 4♥ responders have already decided strain. I want more information from partner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 If I bid 3♠ and partner raises, I am screwed. I think keycarding is very gambly. For one, slam may be poor opposite two key cards and the five level in spades is not safe.If we could bid Keycard and then offer a choice with 6♣, that would be reasonable. We could also mitigate the risk of being at the five-level by passing a 5♣ response to Keycard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 One problem with double is that partner could pass the double which may not work out so well. I doubt this will be the case but I am not so sure that 6C will be a good spot either. AK and a K of S might see our side off the A of H and a possible trump trick. Neat hand and I think I will double, which will work great should partner happen to bid S. I am not sure I can stand 4S facing honor small if that trump is only the J and I get pumped to start. Granted I will miss out on the 5/3, but 5C should be a reasonable contract. I am not passing 3N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted August 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Over 3♠, partner bids 4♣. If you continue with 4♦, partner raises to 5. Double ends the auction. Over 4♥, partner bids 5♣. Anyone have opinions as to what they would do now in their chosen auctions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Over 3♠, partner bids 4♣. If you continue with 4♦, partner raises to 5. Double ends the auction. Over 4♥, partner bids 5♣. Anyone have opinions as to what they would do now in their chosen auctions? I would pass 5♣ (having initially bid 4♥). If pard has the magical Kx xx(x) Qx(x) AKxxxx or similar holdings, we might miss slam, but the only way to explore slam here is to bid it and hope. One factor to consider might be that if they aren't playing Precision at the other table (assume this is IMPs), the auction might go 1♣ - (3♥), which means that they likely will have a harder time getting to a makeable 6♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Pass in both sequences - partner had an encouraging 4NT available and just signed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJNeill Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I had doubled, so I guess I'm waiting to see how big the check is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted August 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I had doubled, so I guess I'm waiting to see how big the check is. 800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Over 3♠, partner bids 4♣. If you continue with 4♦, partner raises to 5. Double ends the auction. Over 4♥, partner bids 5♣. Anyone have opinions as to what they would do now in their chosen auctions?Ok Chris, I will bid 5N Pick a slam. Partner must have ♣AK and likely a useful Major card. If pard has ♦xxx and no ♠K today's not my day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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