Hanoi5 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Both Red, Butler, you dealt: ♠KJTx♥AQJTxxx♦---♣J9 1♥-(Pa)-1♠-(2♦)??? Which Major and what level? And an additional question: Would you pass partner's NT rebid if he made one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 1)4d no problem yet.2) no I would go out on a limb and take it as rkc for spades. I would respond 5nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 The question is about whether we should set the spade suit or the heart suit as trumps. If I had to be the one making that decision, I think hearts had better be the strain. Can't lose control if hearts are trump. Of course we could let partner make the decision (blame transfer), if that 4♦ rebid were the non-serious Convention with No Name rather than a splinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Imagine partner with AQxxx x xxx xxxx we make 6 spades on diamond lead if ♥K falls in 2 rounds and spades are no worse than 3-1, or if ♥K falls in 3 rounds and spades are 2-2. 11 tricks are sure. I'd always play in spades. My bid would be a tactic 4NT followed by 6♠ if partner has any keycard, hoping to induce a diamond lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 It's still possible for partner to have anything from a very good hand to a near bust. So I'm going to opt for a simple 3 ♦ cue and see what partner does next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Definitely raise ♠s to game level (4♦ should be splinter here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 The spoiler made me chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 :P 3♦ for me. If partner is weak and has only four spades, like ♠ AQxx and out, then 4♥ is the right spot. Otherwise spades should be OK. The question is how high? 3♦ is sort of a gutless bid, but I don't feel comfortable masterminding this hand on my limited information. If I do mastermind, then how is partner supposed know what to do? Obviously, 4♦ is a possible call, but to me it suggests something more like 4-5-1-3 or 4-5-0-4 with 15-18 HCP. It is a picture bid that tells rather than asks. I need partner to describe his hand. Accurately describing my hand (assuming it becomes necessary) is hard enough, the more so if I start out with a flagrant misrepresentation. We can't both be tellers. All we need for a near laydown grand is:♠AQxx♥Kx♦xxx♣Axxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I am really tempted to start with a support double here. Unless partner has 5 spades or we are going to play in slam, I probably want to play in hearts. Over a support double, I will hopefully find out more (and hopefully "more" doesn't mean "partner wants to play 2♦X with 4243"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I like the support double idea, although it is not something you can fully trust, if partner bids 2♠ he could have only 4, if he doesn't bid 3♠ over a 3♦ raise it doesn't either mean that he doesn't have 5, but at least it will often mean he doesn't have AQxxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM1973 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I'll make a limit raise in spades and see what happens. Exactly how that is done varies on your method, I suppose. With most of my partners a cuebid shows a limit raise or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'll make a limit raise in spades and see what happens. Exactly how that is done varies on your method, I suppose. With most of my partners a cuebid shows a limit raise or better.Most people think that as opener, if we want to invite game in responder's suit, we jump raise responder's suit. I don't think we want to do that, here. The clever support double to ferret out whether spades or hearts should be trump is interesting, but I wouldn't like to be defending 2D; so we are back to the original question...hearts or spades or somehow get partner to choose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I like the support double idea, although it is not something you can fully trust, if partner bids 2♠ he could have only 4, if he doesn't bid 3♠ over a 3♦ raise it doesn't either mean that he doesn't have 5, but at least it will often mean he doesn't have AQxxx.Sure, but I will bid 4♥ in either of the two auctions, and I think we will be in the right contract no matter whether partner passes or corrects to 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 A support double is worthy of a zero even on the Guthrie index. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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