2013 Bermuda Bowl

[Aberlour10]

So we will see Italy and Monaco in the final. Any thoughts on this matchup? I was a little surprised how easily Italy brushed aside Poland.

 

I would favorize Italy cause to their so disciplined performance vs Poland, but all players are tired like in every BB final, hard to foresee how it will influence the play. The things change fast in bridge, it seemed vs Italy played completely different polish team to the squad which has beaten NL by 120 a day before.

[diana_eva]

I found this interview interesting:

 

 

It's in Italian, a reporter from the Italian Federation online magazine went to the Italian squad right after Poland conceded, found Bocchi on his way to the pool. Bocchi said he thinks it's sort of a tradition for Italy to always beat Poland and that the poles play very well against any other team, however never manage to win to Italy. He also said they were very happy to get Poland in the semis bec of this "tradition"

[Aberlour10]

I found this interview interesting:

 

 

It's in Italian, a reporter from the Italian Federation online magazine went to the Italian squad right after Poland conceded, found Bocchi on his way to the pool. Bocchi said he thinks it's sort of a tradition for Italy to always beat Poland and that the poles play very well against any other team, however never manage to win to Italy. He also said they were very happy to get Poland in the semis bec of this "tradition"

 

 

I dont understand italian language, did he really say this?

 

I took a look in the history of bridge in the last 20 years especially Bermuda Bowl and

European Team Championships:

 

The facts are:

 

Bermuda Bowl

In the knock out round of the BB Poland met Italy only one time in the last 20 years

It was 2003 in Paris - Poland won bronze medal beating Italy by 86- 74

http://www.worldbrid...=PO&qtournid=83

EDITED: N. Bocchi played in this match

 

 

I went back to Yokohama 1991, no other knock out matches

In the RRs>>> several polish wins in this period of time

 

European Championships

 

 

There were no knock-out matches for a long period of time

so here RRs last tournaments:

 

2006 Poland won by 58-35

2008 Poland won by 49-7

2010 Poland lost

2012 Poland won by 42-17

[diana_eva]

I dont understand italian language, did he really say this?

 

I took a look in the history of bridge in the last 20 years especially Bermuda Bowl and

European Team Championships:

 

The facts are:

 

Bermuda Bowl

In the knock out round of the BB Poland met Italy only one time in the last 20 years

It was 2003 in Pars - Poland won bronze medal beating Italy by 86- 74

http://www.worldbrid...=PO&qtournid=83

 

I went back to Yokohama 1991, no other knock out matches

In the RRs>>> several polish wins in this period of time

 

European Championships

 

 

There were no knock-out matches for a long period of time

so here RRs last tournaments:

 

2006 Poland won by 58-35

2008 Poland won by 49-7

2010 Poland lost

2012 Poland won by 42-17

 

Yes he said this - along with other things of course. This is the bit i found interesting, but it's a normal interview with the regular questions and answers.

 

Edit. Oh, I just saw you bolded some words. The wording is mine, he prob was softer about the whole thing. I'm not that good with Italian language nuances :)

 

Edit 2: Asked Queequeg (Italian yellow) to translate it, just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding the whole thing. But I'm pretty sure this is what he is saying.

Edited September 27, 2013 by diana_eva

[billw55]

I would favorize Italy cause to their so disciplined performance vs Poland, but all players are tired like in every BB final, hard to foresee how it will influence the play.

Yes, I also wonder how much the early concession will help the Italians in the fatigue department.

[Hanoi5]

Why didn't Sementa and Duboin play in the Final?

[patroclo]

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[diana_eva]

Why didn't Sementa and Duboin play in the Final?

 

According to their coach, they were ill:

http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/failla-and-the-best-has-yet-to.html

[mrdct]

According to their coach, they were ill:

http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/failla-and-the-best-has-yet-to.html

Bridge i Norge has a different theory "Duboin was so dissatisfied with his partner that he was en route to have threatened to go home".

[Zelandakh]

In England we also select teams by committee, for equivalent reasons. If we did have a trial it would basically be the same event as the Premier League. In the past few years, that would have given us teams of:

2010 (European): Crouch-Liggins, Forrester-Allfrey, Patterson-Whittaker

2012 (European and Olympiad): Allfrey-Robson, Crouch-Patterson, Forrester-Gold

2013 (Bermuda Bowl): Hinden-Osborne, Allerton-Jagger, and another pair added by some means

I am guessing Peter and Derek in particular might feel that this selection criteria was fairer than the committee.

 

 

That's rather different from a committee of several disinterested people.

Would you describe the typical selection committee as disinterested? In countries with a small elite base (such as England but even probably more so in some other countries) there are inevitably friendships and often enough family connections involved. I would imagine it is practically impossible in many instances of finding a group of selectors with no biases whatsoever towards all of the potential candidates.