mr1303 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=s9hdaqjt92cakq972&n=skq6hq632dk643c63&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=1d2dd2s6cdppp]266|200[/hv] Partner forgot to correct to 6D. Lose 17 :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 "Forgot"? Nah. Partner doubled 2♦ and then he fell asleep. Or lost his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 ouch,,, owie..... ugh.... 50% good bidding, 50% SAY WHAT!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 If double showed diamonds, why didn't you correct to 6♦ yourself? If double did not show diamonds, why did you blast to slam immediately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Double of Michaels/Unu2NT typically just shows values, with interest in doubling at least one of the opponent's suits. It's likely that partner has a fit with an honor in at least one of your minors, and there isn't really any way to ask -- If you jump to 5♣ would partner know to raise to 6 with Jxx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSClyde Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I've never understood why correcting is beyond the scope of many players. I've had virtually the same auction and result myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMan Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I've never understood why correcting is beyond the scope of many players. I've had virtually the same auction and result myself. "Well, partner must know what he's doing with that bid." New players are taught that most bids Show something and that some bids Ask something but rarely are taught that some do both at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I've never understood why correcting is beyond the scope of many players. I've had virtually the same auction and result myself.I have to agree with you. ROFL at not correcting here but I see it too often, most recently when I opened 1♦ and rebid 5♣ on my next turn with a hand slightly worse than the OP hand here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I've occasionally caught the BBO robot failing to correct in a situation like this. So I guess we could call North's pass "robotic". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=s9hdaqjt92cakq972&n=skq6hq632dk643c63&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=1d2dd2s6cdppp]266|200[/hv] Partner forgot to correct to 6D. Lose 17 :( Nah, that's nothing. At our table: [hv=pc=n&s=s9hdaqjt92cakq972&n=skq6hq632dk643c63&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2d(strong !D or !S or bal)2hdp3d3s4dp4hdpp5cp7dppp]266|200[/hv] West (South actually), on lead with both major Aces, leads the ♥A and we make it. One of the more embarassing ways to win 17 :) :unsure: ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0rdy Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Nah, that's nothing. At our table: [hv=pc=n&s=s9hdaqjt92cakq972&n=skq6hq632dk643c63&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2d(strong !D or !S or bal)2hdp3d3s4dp4hdpp5cp7dppp]266|200[/hv] West (South actually), on lead with both major Aces, leads the ♥A and we make it. One of the more embarassing ways to win 17 :) :unsure: ahydra Alternatively:[hv=pc=n&s=s9hdaqjt92cakq972&n=skq6hq632dk643c63&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2d(Weak M or strong m or bal)2hpp4d4h4sp6cp6dppp]266|200[/hv] We were a bit surprised that 2♦, rather than the strong 1♣, was the opening of choice for our south. After this we wondered whether anyone plays a Michaels bid after a Multi opening? We've always had 4m showing that minor and a major, but have now agreed to use 4♣ to show majors when the Multi could be a "strong" minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 If double showed diamonds, why didn't you correct to 6♦ yourself? If double did not show diamonds, why did you blast to slam immediately? I would ask - why not? Unless of course you want to walk the dog a bit. I bid the same as OP with this hand but when our team mates brought back 6Dx+1 I wished I'd taken it a bit more slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 What's the point of posting this hand? To embarrass partner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Check your notes, maybe it says "everything above 5NT is to play". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil352 Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Alternatively:[hv=pc=n&s=s9hdaqjt92cakq972&n=skq6hq632dk643c63&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2d(Weak M or strong m or bal)2hpp4d4h4sp6cp6dppp]266|200[/hv] We were a bit surprised that 2♦, rather than the strong 1♣, was the opening of choice for our south. After this we wondered whether anyone plays a Michaels bid after a Multi opening? We've always had 4m showing that minor and a major, but have now agreed to use 4♣ to show majors when the Multi could be a "strong" minor. We had a similar issue on the hand: [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=pp2dp2hp3d4d5dppp]133|100[/hv] Lacking a both majors bid in our agreements (in hindsight a pretty big hole) i think what partner did was fair enough. the 5D bidder was concerned about her aceless hand and the 2D opener wished they'd opened something else i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 it is hard to find hands where 6♣ plays better than 6♦, but they do exist (using clubs for diamond finesses) partner not correcting is crazy. But if you know your partner well enough perhaps you shouldn't even bid clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 My textbook didn't tell me what to bid with 6-6 hands so I decided that opening 1D then rebid 6C would communicate an ability to make 12 tricks in the preferred minor. Maybe a touch agricultural, but yet to see anything better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 You could always open an unusual 5NT. B-) And yes, there is a group of players that think almost any game or slam bid (except 4NT, 5NT, 5M) is automatically a sign off and means they can stop thinking. That seems to be what happened here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 'I didn't know what to do so I passed.' :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 'I didn't know what to do so I passed.' :ph34r:"And that's how we ended up in the 5 level in our 2-1 fit." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMan Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 'I didn't know what to do so I passed.' :ph34r: Sad to say that it took me a couple of years to learn not to do this. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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