nige1 Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 [hv=pc=n&e=sj4hkdqj753ca9842&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=2s(Weak)pp?]133|200|MP Pairs[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 IMO pass = 10 ; 3♦ = 9 ; 3♣ = 8 ; Dbl = 7 ; 2NT = 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 IMO pass = 10 ; 3♦ = 9 ; 3♣ = 8 ; Dbl = 7 ; 2NT = 6Err isn't 2N 15-17 bal or similar for most people by an unpassed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I can't drum up too much enthusiasm to bid here and double seems designed to give us a negative score. And if I had to bid a minor then I really prefer clubs since partner will often double with the red suits, but our chances of going for -200 just seem so high when I cannot show both sensibly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Err isn't 2N 15-17 bal or similar for most people by an unpassed hand.Yes it is. But, I want it to mean what I want it to mean when I have this hand :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 IMO pass = 10 ; 3♦ = 9 ; 3♣ = 8 ; Dbl = 7 ; 2NT = 6Err isn't 2N 15-17 bal or similar for most people by an unpassed hand.Yes it is. But, I want it to mean what I want it to mean when I have this hand :rolleyes:Because we're in the passout seat, maybe 2NT would be better off being a 2-suited hand rather than 15-17 balanced with Spade stoppers. Not saying that it is the optimal way to play it, but it would be nice to have someone do some simulations to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 A sim for something like that would be very difficult to use. Frequency of occurence is only part of the issue. We would have to factor in the additional burden the balancing double would be taking on, and the ability to survive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Because we're in the passout seat, maybe 2NT would be better off being a 2-suited hand rather than 15-17 balanced with Spade stoppers. Not saying that it is the optimal way to play it, but it would be nice to have someone do some simulations to find out.Oh dear, I really started something with my ironic post :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I passed this one without even thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Oh dear, I really started something with my ironic post :PI guess most people didn't realise that 6 points is very low on the nige1 scale. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 At first look the yes or no vote confused me. Yes I want to protect my side, pass hits the mark for me in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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