dickiegera Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 [hv=pc=n&w=shkjt863dqcakjt95&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1s]133|200[/hv] Would you Michael's or bid 2♥? If you bid 2♠ East will bid 3♠ and partner will pass.Now would you bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 2hYes, 4c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I would Mike it. For starters, it muddies the waters for the opponents about the nature of 3S (presumably you meant North bid 3S, not East). Now, after:(1S) 2S (3S) P(P)...I would bid 4H, not 4C. Why? Because I have six of them, and will have shown 6 of a minor as well --- an inference because I chose Michaels instead of 2H on the previous round. Am willing to play 5C if Pard is stiff or void in hearts and asks via 4N. If I bid 4C instead, I don't think Pard will bid 4H with only two of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Michael's of course. Why on earth not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I have "at least 5-5" don't I? Obvious Michaels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I would Mike it. For starters, it muddies the waters for the opponents about the nature of 3S (presumably you meant North bid 3S, not East). Now, after:(1S) 2S (3S) P(P)...I would bid 4H, not 4C. Why? Because I have six of them, and will have shown 6 of a minor as well --- an inference because I chose Michaels instead of 2H on the previous round. Am willing to play 5C if Pard is stiff or void in hearts and asks via 4N. If I bid 4C instead, I don't think Pard will bid 4H with only two of them. perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamHenry Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 What range do you play Michaels? I play split-range, either weak or very strong, and I think this hand is worth treating as very strong. I therefore cue-bid, then bid ♥ again - partner should get the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Some pairs play that mike can be any range, as Lawrence suggests. I prefer the weak or strong which has suited my approach well over time. So I show the 2 suited nature at once and then over 3S we have the option of bidding again, we can bid clubs which would clear up which our other suit was and indicate a strong playing hand. Or you can choose to dble allowing partner to pass with his bazillion trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Now, after:(1S) 2S (3S) P(P)...I would bid 4H, not 4C. Why? Because I have six of them, and will have shown 6 of a minor as well --- an inference because I chose Michaels instead of 2H on the previous round I don't think 4h shows six clubs. I could be 6-5 and too strong for a 2h overcall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I don't think 4h shows six clubs. I could be 6-5 and too strong for a 2h overcallSorry to be unclear. I meant the inference was there for us. Didn't mean to assume it was yours, too --- or insist it had to be anyone's, for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I would only Michaels if not playing 2/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I love Mike Lawrence stuff but this michaels on any range never worked for me. I'm more concerned with the opponents bouncing into 4♠ which would get pretty much an auto pass from pard. They pretty much have an auto pass over 3♠ too. After 2♥ and the same bounce I'll still bid but at least pard had a chance to smash them in 4 or in 5 if they get out of line. And of course lho can now bid 2♠ instead of 3 giving pard a chance to show a pulse with modest values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 2♥ -- the sensational shape and great offensive potential seem too good for 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 2♥ -- the sensational shape and great offensive potential seem too good for 2♠. I'm pretty confused by this. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 ♥ -- the sensational shape and great offensive potential seem too good for 2♠. I'm pretty confused by this. :( Thought it was more clear than the below, but I digress B-). I would only Michaels if not playing 2/1. Regardless, if it helps, I would bid 2♠ with a 5-5 or even 5-6, but consider this shape too good for Michaels (fully intending to compete with 5♣ if 4♠ comes around to me). Over 4♠, 4N would likely emphasize ♥ and show a second side suit. 5♣ would presumably show a desire to play in either suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Thought it was more clear than the below, but I digress B-). Regardless, if it helps, I would bid 2♠ with a 5-5 or even 5-6, but consider this shape too good for Michaels (fully intending to compete with 5♣ if 4♠ comes around to me). Over 4♠, 4N would likely emphasize ♥ and show a second side suit. 5♣ would presumably show a desire to play in either suit. Were I to overcall, it would doubtless go all pass. Partner would then be really confused when I told him I was "too good" to force to game via Michael's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Were I to overcall, it would doubtless go all pass. Partner would then be really confused when I told him I was "too good" to force to game via Michael's. Perhaps, doubletless reflects what actually happened at the table, but IMO, 2♥ being passed out seems improbable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 In case you didn't catch Phil's joke about only bidding Michaels if not playing 2/1, it has 3 entendres. Truly one of the better posts of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 In case you didn't catch Phil's joke about only bidding Michaels if not playing 2/1, it has 3 intendres. Truly one of the better posts of the year. That s "entendre", not "intendre", or was that an intendre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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