ahydra Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 ♠Ax ♥J ♦AQxxx ♣AKxxx Both vul at IMPs. What do you do after (1H)-1S-(p)? (2H = good spade raise, 3m = fit jump, 3H = ask stop, 4x SPL, NT bids natural) What if your hearts were Jx and your spades the singleton Ace? ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I make a forcing bid in a minor. Please don't tell me that is not possible, or I will go on tilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 When you play methods that make it impossible to show this hand type, then you can't show the hand type. If 2♦ is forcing, which is how I have always played it and still play it, then this is trivial. If 2♦ is constructive but non-forcing (a treatment that I think is probably better, but I play with old guys like me), such that partner will pass with a minimum, then you can try 2♦ and pray, or (it seems to me) you can bid 2♥ and pray. I'd choose the former, since the latter endplays you yet again should partner make the almost inevitable 2♠ bid. Now 3m presumably is a game try in spades, not a suit. At least if he bids over 2♦, you can bid something else...maybe cue hearts next time? Since all studies done on the power of prayer demonstrate that prayer does no good, I suspect that you won't be happy with the result no matter which horrible choice you choose to inflict upon your partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I make a forcing bid in a minor. Please don't tell me that is not possible, or I will go on tilt. <hides round a corner> ... new suits are encouraging but not forcing. <sheepishly pokes head back out> ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 2h, no problem yet. will rebid a forcing 3c if pard rebids 2s or 2nt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 <hides round a corner> ... new suits are encouraging but not forcing. <sheepishly pokes head back out> ahydra When 3rd seat passes, I don't think fit jumps are necessary, so if you want to play 2m as constructive, then 3m should show a powerhouse. So on this hand, a jump to 3♣ covers most options (but not as many as a forcing 2♦). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I think it is good to play 2m as F1 by UPH in this spot. We used to play NFC but changed it after a few too many spots like this (more generally we play transfer advances, but new suits below the cue F1 by UPH). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Under these conditions I bid 3♥ asking for a stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I'm going to bid 2H regardless. If partner gets excited he should not be disappointed with this dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I think it is good to play 2m as F1 by UPH in this spot. We used to play NFC but changed it after a few too many spots like this (more generally we play transfer advances, but new suits below the cue F1 by UPH). Yes my usual 18 HCPS hand after partner overcalled... I very much prefer non forcing to forcing here.If 2 m is nf and 3 m is a fitjump, I bid 2♥. IF I can bid 2 NT to show this hand type over partners 2 ♠ bid, I will choose it. If this is natural, I choose a minor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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