patroclo Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 You have kqjx kqj xxx xxx. Partner open 1 spade.If you think to play 4 spade, show me an hand of partner with a 5 3 3 2 shape and 12 13 points where you are able to make 4 spade. As title says , i dont know the answer. For me there isn t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Axxxx xxx AKQ xx, losing two clubs and a heart. The spade ace could be anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patroclo Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Axxxx xxx AKQ xx, losing two clubs and a heart. The spade ace could be anywhere.and if h are 6-1 H ruff h and so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 T9xxxxxxAQKQx That is 11 points and you can make it if both fineses work or on a minor suit lead (except for the underlead of ♣A). Or possibly on an endplay. It is not a good game, though. T9xxxxxxAKKQJ That is 13 points and you make it as long as they don't get a ruff. But KQJx KQJ xxx xxx is 9 modified LTC to some. I don't think many would downgrade it to a simple raise, though. But a limit raise is reasonable. I wouldn't force to game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 and if h are 6-1 H ruff h and so...Are you serious? If you are going to think that way, I can set 4♠ on an opening crossruff when you have all 40 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 There are no guarantees in this game. If you have a hand where you should bid game, bid it, play it, and go on to the next board. Agonizing over "I bid game but it didn't make" is counter-productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDluxe Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 There are no guarantees in this game. If you have a hand where you should bid game, bid it, play it, and go on to the next board. Agonizing over "I bid game but it didn't make" is counter-productive. A huge hurdle for me as a player was when I realized that... The job of the players during bidding is to accurately and systematically describe their hand to their partner, while the pair arrives at the 'correct' final contract. Whether the contract makes or not is a separate issue. As another poster pointed out, you can have "great" contracts that go down on a flukey distribution. You bid your hand, land in a reasonable/right spot, and then let the cards fall where they may. There's always room for judgment based on information you have, but sometimes the 'right' action goes wrong. That's part of the intrigue of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 and if h are 6-1 H ruff h and so...No, the Ace is singleton and there's no way back to get a ruff, so... :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 ♠T9xxx♥xxx♦AKQ♣Ax also works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 You have kqjx kqj xxx xxx. Partner open 1 spade.If you think to play 4 spade, show me an hand of partner with a 5 3 3 2 shape and 12 13 points where you are able to make 4 spade. As title says , i dont know the answer. For me there isn t. Axx, A10xxx xx, Axx has good play :) and makes 11 on 3 rounds of diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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