kgr Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 MP's[hv=pc=n&s=sq75haj85djt73ckj&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1c(2+C)1dd(4+cH%3B%20transfer)3d(preemptive%2C%20can%20be%20very%20weak)dp]133|200[/hv]Your DBL was transfer to ♥.Partners DBL is take-out and extra's. At this level we don't play support DBL, but DBL is often with 3c♥.Your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamHenry Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'm quite tempted to double for takeout myself. It's a shame the director wouldn't permit this! Absent that option, it seem I could try passing - but we've probably got game on, partner's not got more than 1 diamond, and oppo may have a cross-ruff for -1 or similar. I could bid 3♥, thus grossly misdescribing my distribution and strength. I could bid 3♠, which could find a 3-3 fit and play partscore. 4♣ looks like a bad call, 4♦ might show first-round control instead of "no clear direction", and 4M is overly committal. I'm going to bid 3NT and hope it's correct, but I reckon 4♦ is the second-best option here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 We can probably make 6♣. Especially given that it has been posted on the forum :) I have no clue how to bid it. 4♦ just leads to murkiness. I think I just punt 6♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 We can probably make 6♣. That's rather optimistic! At this point we have no guarantee that partner holds any more than four five clubs (edit: thanks Cyberyeti for pointing out what I'd missed, namely he can't have 4 hearts). I'll stick with a boring 3NT. ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 That's rather optimistic! At this point we have no guarantee that partner holds any more than four clubs. I'll stick with a boring 3NT. ahydraWell he should only have at most one diamond and 3 hearts, so he would appear to have 5 or more clubs. I'm probably with you on 3N though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 This being mps, I am not going to chase a minor suit slam unless I know RHO to be the type of player who thinks that a 4 card overcall is a psyche and he or she hates psyches, or unless I am playing in a strong field. If RHO has 5 diamonds, then the odds are very high that partner has something like 4=3=0=6, and he needs very little by way of 'extras' to make 6♣ a very good spot....with lots of extras, grand will have play. And a good 4=3=1=5 may make 12 tricks as well. AKJx Kxx x AQxxx is basically on a hook through the opp with the most values. Take away the spade J and we still have almost the same play, with a major squeeze or either major being 3-3 making the contract almost 50%. However, 3N rates to take 10 tricks so it will beat all those who play in the club game, and that is the deciding factor for me in most mp fields. I doubt that 630 will be anything worse than 45-65%, while looking for slam and stopping in 5♣ will be less than 40% all the time and bidding a failing slam will be 10% or worse. I'll take my average plus on a hand where I am really stuck in the auction and hope to pick up tops later on. However, in a strong field, where more players will be picturing slam layouts, I think playing 3N when cold for 6♣ will score below average and I'll try for the slam. I would definitely go slamming playing imps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dude Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 3NT for me. When they preempt, I seem to have alot more disasters bidding speculative contracts than had I just bid a solid game. True we could be on for 6C, we have a fantastic hand, but we could also be turning a vul game into a minus. One opp made a takeout X ... maybe he was kidding and maybe he wasn't but I have no reason to think so and no good way to find out. I'm taking the surest profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 One opp made a takeout X ... maybe he was kidding and maybe he wasn't but I have no reason to think so and no good way to find out. I'm taking the surest profit.I don't understand this: Partner made a TO X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I would double with a minimum of: ♠AJxx ♥Kxx ♦x ♣AQxxx So anything more than 3NT is exaggerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 MP's[hv=pc=n&s=sq75haj85djt73ckj&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1c(2+C)1dd(4+cH%3B%20transfer)3d(preemptive%2C%20can%20be%20very%20weak)dp]133|200[/hv]Your DBL was transfer to ♥.Partners DBL is take-out and extra's. At this level we don't play support DBL, but DBL is often with 3c♥.Your call? How sure are we that 3nt is making? Because it is MPs I think I'm going for the sure plus and pass. Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 3NT seems quite obvious to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 How sure are we that 3nt is making? Because it is MPs I think I'm going for the sure plus and pass. Steven You have 12 hcp + stopper in their suit and pd opens. And then he says he has extras for his opening bid. And you ask how sure are we that 3 NT is making huh ? Why so pessimistic ? It is possible that you may go down in 3NT but the chances of this is less than your being in a car wreck on the way to tournament imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 How sure are we that 3nt is making? Because it is MPs I think I'm going for the sure plus and pass. Steven You know that MPs stands for matchpoints, right? I would expect a lot of +500s and therefore a cold bottom. True, you will get 800s as well, but not quite often enough. In a weak field (and whatever kind is there?), a good declarer should rate to do hugely well in standard 3NT contracts, so there is no need to risk anything with too high a variance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 3NT for me. Looking for slam is highly optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 MP's[hv=pc=n&s=sq75haj85djt73ckj&n=sajxxhkqxdcat9xxx&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1c(2+C)1dd(4+cH%3B%20transfer)3d(preemptive%2C%20can%20be%20very%20weak)dppp]233|200[/hv]Your DBL was transfer to ♥.Partners DBL is take-out and extra's. At this level we don't play support DBL, but DBL is often with 3c♥. I passed, afraid to loose 4 ticks D and another trick. Apparently (seeing the answers) pass is not the correct decision at MPs and this vulnerability. 3DX did go -2.It looks like 3NT and 6♣ have similar chances (?). How would you play 3NT after a ♦ lead and you are allowed to make the 1st trick. We were actually EW and these are we the scores for NS. (we scored 70% with 3DX-2)Score NZ ptnNZ %NZ -150 1 11 55.00% -800 2 0 0.00% -690 3 2 10.00% -50 4 18 90.00% -100 5 16 80.00% 400 6 20 100.00% -630 7 4 20.00% -300 8 6 30.00% -150 9 11 55.00% -140 10 14 70.00% -200 11 8 40.00% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 How would you play 3NT after a ♦ lead and you are allowed to make the 1st trick. I'd probably put ♠Q on the table pretty quickly. If I deem the king is offside, now I have a problem, since the issue is complicated by whether I assume there will be a lot of people in 6♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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