lycier Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|000ffj,cori_n,lycier,anacosac|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S246QH46QD9QC68QA%2CS7H27TKD25TAC34TK%2CS359H35JAD36KC59J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%204%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7Cp%7Can%7C2%2B%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7Ch3%7Cmb%7C1N%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD8%7C]499|350[/hv] 这是一副值得考究的一副抢夺局部定约的牌面。出自昨晚对罗马尼亚桥牌俱乐部比赛。个人以为:1-谨慎地把握顿挫叫牌节奏当南家支持性加倍后,南家最好的策略是pass。 2-当西家1nt后,北家还是应该努力展示牌型,再叫2♦,事实上2♦有效地发现了8张配,完成定约没问题。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|000ffj,cori_n,lycier,anacosac|st%7C%7Cmd%7C3S256TJQKH6TD9QC89%2CS4AH2347JADTKC56A%2CS38H8KD2345C347TK%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%209%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7Cpreempt%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cmc%7C8%7C]499|350[/hv] 而另一桌: [hv=sn=|lin=pn|plucian,duanqiao_p,kriss%2027%20b,liulang|st%7C%7Cmd%7C3S256TJQKH6TD9QC89%2CS4AH2347JADTKC56A%2CS38H8KD2345C347TK%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%209%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CSJ%7C]499|350[/hv] 问题是:选择合作性惩罚性加倍还是叫出5♦?元芳,你如何看待? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|000ffj,aurora,lycier,anacosac|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S4TJKH78TD789C25T%2CSH6KD346TJKC78QKA%2CS357QAH4JQAD5QC9J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2016%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7C1C%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3S%7Can%7Cpreempt%7Cmb%7C4D%7Cmb%7C4S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CHJ%7C]499|350[/hv] 而另一桌liulang他们采用的是精确体系: [hv=sn=|lin=pn|plucian,duanqiao_p,kriss%2027%20b,liulang|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S4TJKH78TD789C25T%2CSH6KD346TJKC78QKA%2CS357QAH4JQAD5QC9J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2016%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7C1C%21%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7Cmajors%7Cmb%7Cp%7Can%7C0%2F4%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7C3D%7Cmb%7C3S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cmc%7C9%7C]499|350[/hv] 叫与不叫,是个永恒的话题,我们这副牌输了-6imps,所为何来?请大家公断。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|plucian,duanqiao_p,kriss%2027%20b,liulang|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S4TJH28TQADQC289K%2CSKH7JKD39TJKAC5TA%2CS78QAH49D258C36JQ%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2011%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3N%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cmc%7C7%7C]499|350[/hv] 结果:3Nxw-2 这不能不说带有孟浪的赌博策略,我不认同。 而另一桌:[hv=sn=|lin=pn|000ffj,cori_n,lycier,anacosac|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S4TJH28TQADQC289K%2CSKH7JKD39TJKAC5TA%2CS78QAH49D258C36JQ%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2011%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7C2D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CHQ%7C]499|350[/hv] 结果:2♦W= 这副牌我方输掉-9imps,大家如何看待呢? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 [hv=sn=|lin=pn|plucian,duanqiao_p,kriss%2027%20b,liulang|st%7C%7Cmd%7C3S2367JAHD6JAC349A%2CS45QH45JKD29C26TQ%2CS9KH236QD35TC578J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%201%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7C2H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%7Cmb%7C3H%7Cmb%7C4C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4D%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7C4H%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cmc%7C9%7C]499|350[/hv]结果:4♥xE-1 -100 我们于此发现东西家对体系缺乏研究,对高阶加倍等叫品含义混淆而模糊,需要好好学习了。不能再让本是原告成被告重复上演。 另一桌:[hv=sn=|lin=pn|000ffj,cori_n,lycier,anacosac|st%7C%7Cmd%7C3S2367JAHD6JAC349A%2CS45QH45JKD29C26TQ%2CS9KH236QD35TC578J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%201%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7C1N%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2D%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7C3H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC8%7C]499|350[/hv] 结果:3♥E-1 -50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 我认为在pd1s示弱后,最多够2n邀请,自己摸3n则明显叫过头了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 我愿意再叫2♦,以前这类吃亏的牌面我遇到过,我也胡乱无理作赌博,后悔的我,把手指头放进嘴里咬一下,发誓以后不犯(虽然偶尔也犯),但及时汲取教训,对我们大家都是极好的警醒。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 虽然是单有局,但是,基于s双张,d套质量一般,2Q2J,2353这样的牌,更适合防守而不是做庄。 我会选择pass,如果s是单张或者d是6张半坚强套才会考虑5d,现在的牌叫5d实在是太勉强了点。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 东的叫牌,先pass 2h,之后有自己叫出3h和4d,多少显得前后矛盾了。 就估值来看,cK单张,在同伴2h后也看不到这手牌有任何能够增值的潜力; 在opp3c后,因为同伴2h只保证3张,我认为直接叫3h都是比较危险的了,3cpass是本手; 东的这手牌就是2hpass的牌,任何3阶再叫都偏冒了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 这个牌,很直观的体现了2边体系的差异。jq体系在这里出套慢的缺点暴露无遗! 开室打自然,可以很从容的叫出2个低花套,个人认为可能开1d会好点;而北叫4s时不知道是否考虑清楚了opp继续争叫5m时该如何处理? 我会选择4dpass,为什么?首先,在pd3s后4s基本上没有可能mk;其次,opp的5m自己有把握宕吗?只要有人s缺门,则没有宕的把握; 如果他们准备叫上5,则4s起不到任何阻击作用,但是,如果他们不打算叫到5,4s则可能把对方逼上去, 输小不输大,4dpass。 闭室jq,在遭到阻击后,自己单有局,在pd示弱后再叫4c的确需要勇气,不叫也属于正常的选择,体系的局限性在这里! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laidong1 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 w家牌,就直接争叫2D。有单张,而且是单K。技术性X后也只能出新花2D。pd1S=0-7p.实战W家是把PD1s=3+s,7P来用!难道PD不会是0P。 :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanqiao_p Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 我认为该叫4C,如PD C不知支持可以改4D,这个我认为不是体系缺陷所造成的,是你对全局的综合判断和对自己所持牌型、牌点的信心。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanqiao_p Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 在争抢局部定约时,我认为要稍微积极主动点。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanqiao_p Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 事后我觉得自己对这副牌的处理不好,已经在我专门帖子里加以阐述。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanqiao_p Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 我还是觉得争抢局部定约问题,N持S KX,我认为可以叫3S。至于E的pass 2H,觉得合理,CK单张整手牌应该减值,局部定约争抢,主动有事当然会吃亏,但总的来说,现代竞技桥牌,在争抢局部定约不应保守,至少给opps要造成必要的压力。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiaxiachun Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 遇这种牌应该是静下心来才行,牌面分析倒是其次的 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanqiao_p Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 这样的牌我认为4S加倍,同伴有两种选择,1.在我有局opps无局时,足够防守赢墩估计能在-3或以上可以放罚。2.选择自己主打,因为这个牌往往是X 可能就是-2最多-3的牌,如果你PD没有足够的防守赢墩,你值得放罚吗?答案是否定的,所以我PD选择了5D,当然我改5D为5H就比较理想了,当己方有局时,你要慎重选择,如果你罚放,你可能会损失100-300 imps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiaxiachun Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 第一桌N家的pass效果上处理的很好,第二桌W家的2♦我不敢苟同 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiaxiachun Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 我还是觉得争抢局部定约问题,N持S KX,我认为可以叫3S。至于E的pass 2H,觉得合理,CK单张整手牌应该减值,局部定约争抢,主动有事当然会吃亏,但总的来说,现代竞技桥牌,在争抢局部定约不应保守,至少给opps要造成必要的压力。 那是高级赛场上惩罚对手部分订约的意愿不高,所以鼓励抢部分定约,你觉得呢? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamebridge Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 3C后叫3D有人赞吗? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 你是说东再叫2D? 东的1S争叫属于低限,D套太弱,再叫2D很勉强。如果考虑到S套只有一个失墩,如果同伴D不配合,可叫回2S(同伴双张),叫2D也不算错。 我还是偏向pass。如果2D叫错,-2不加倍就是200,万一被处罚,就送对方一个局。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 出套慢是精确最大的弊端。 这个牌,我如果是南,不会叫3S,4-3-3-3牌型,加叫2S足以。 如果不是精确,西应该开叫1D。然后可一直叫到4C(第二次叫3C)。同伴有DA,可加叫到局。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 这个牌,东绝对应该放罚。虽然损失imp的可能性存在(这就是阻击叫到效果,你已经没有了探查的空间),但叫5D的代价通常会更大:4S做不成,5D也不成。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 西家虽然有19点,但SK是废点。没有逼局的实力,也许还是直接争叫2D更好。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 东后来的3H和4D,尤其是4D,与第二轮的pass矛盾。如果东想用D套邀局,第二轮就应当叫出来。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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