Ai Hao Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 2/1 system, both vulnerable, first seat, your hand: ♠T5♥AKQ862♦J74♣J5 What do you open? 1♥;2♥;3♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 2/1 system, both vulnerable, first seat, your hand: ♠T5♥AKQ862♦J74♠J5 What do you open? 1♥;2♥;3♥ I consider the hand too weak for 1♥ and way too strong for 3♥ This leaves 2♥ I toyed with the idea of passing and then blamed the impulse on the percoset... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 2♥ - 10 1♥ - 93♥ - 4 In 3rd/4th with some sort of Drury available I'd open 1♥ for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Close between 1♥ and 2♥. I choose 2♥ because of the lack of outside values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I thought I had completely lost it. I read the comments first and found three players stating that they would open 2♥. I thought that this was an absolutely wtp 1♥ opening bid. Then I voted and found that a strong majority (4-2 counting my vote) had voted for 1♥. [Clearly, one of the posters above did not vote, or misvoted] I may still be losing it. But at least I have company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I thought I had completely lost it. I read the comments first and found three players stating that they would open 2♥. I thought that this was an absolutely wtp 1♥ opening bid. Then I voted and found that a strong majority (4-2 counting my vote) had voted for 1♥. [Clearly, one of the posters above did not vote, or misvoted] I may still be losing it. But at least I have company.Ah, you still have all your marbles Art. I figured the majority would be for 1♥. Vul, first seat, it just isn't my style. I count the stray jacks as zero btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix214 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 All i have is hearts, nothing much else. I want to play 2H if partner doesnt have an excelent card. I think 2H shows that the best. If opps bid after, i have told p i have 6H(The upside of 2h), and nothing much extra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallerton Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 2♥ - 10 1♥ - 93♥ - 4 In 3rd/4th with some sort of Drury available I'd open 1♥ for sure. I think you have these the wrong way round. In 1st/2nd seats, I prefer 1♥. You'll miss quite a few games if you open 2♥, unless you have agreed to play 'constructive weak twos'.In 3rd seat, pre-empts should be a wider range. Game is unlikely opposit a passed hand so opening 2♥ makes sense.In 4th seat, the range for a weak 2 is stronger anyway (say 9-12, just pass with a weaker hand) so this hand fits the bill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I think you have these the wrong way round. In 1st/2nd seats, I prefer 1♥. You'll miss quite a few games if you open 2♥, unless you have agreed to play 'constructive weak twos'.In 3rd seat, pre-empts should be a wider range. Game is unlikely opposit a passed hand so opening 2♥ makes sense.In 4th seat, the range for a weak 2 is stronger anyway (say 9-12, just pass with a weaker hand) so this hand fits the bill. The reason I don't like 1H in 1st and 2nd is that I think the chance of partner taking my opening seriously and getting us too high on a misfit is too great. The J's are essentially worthless in the short suits. I also have practically negative defensive tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 1H looks easy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 You guys do realize it's a 6-4 hand, right? :P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I thought I had completely lost it. I read the comments first and found three players stating that they would open 2♥. I thought that this was an absolutely wtp 1♥ opening bid. Then I voted and found that a strong majority (4-2 counting my vote) had voted for 1♥. [Clearly, one of the posters above did not vote, or misvoted] I may still be losing it. But at least I have company.I thought I had completely lost it. I voted first and found that a strong majority (4-2 counting my vote) had voted for 1♥.Then I read the comments and found three players stating that they would open 2♥. I thought that this was an absolutely wtp 2♥ opening bid, vulnerable in first position, good suit, only stray jacks on the side. I rather open 3♥ than 1♥. I may still be losing it. But at least I have company. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 You guys do realize it's a 6-4 hand, right? :P Was going to say that, its an obvious 1♥ opener :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 You guys do realize it's a 6-4 hand, right? :PYeah, don't preempt with a 4 card in the other Major :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I gravitate toward 3H at equal (the obvious bid if you don't have the two garbage jacks), but have no objection to 1H. I'll never play you for this much if you open 2H at equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Hi, for me, only 1H or 3H is an option, but I would go with 1H. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I consider the hand too weak for 1♥ and way too strong for 3♥ I gravitate toward 3H at equal (the obvious bid if you don't have the two garbage jacks), but have no objection to 1H. I'll never play you for this much if you open 2H at equal. Hi, for me, only 1H or 3H is an option, but I would go with 1H. With kind regardsMarloweThere seems to be some disagreement about whether 2♥ or 3♥ shows a stronger hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 There seems to be some disagreement about whether 2♥ or 3♥ shows a stronger hand.3H showes a hand, that can produce 1 trick more than a hand that would have opened 2H.From this point of view, 3H is showing a stronger hand than 2H, at least with regardsof trick taking power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 It is a matter of style and system and seat. I have one p where this is a wtp 2♥, albeit a max, in any seat. In 4th seat it is a wtp 2♥ anyway. In 3rd seat, where you're not likely to miss game by pre-empting, 2♥ is certainly OK and 3♥ is not crazy. In 1st or 2nd seat, for anyone whose system/style is even slightly tolerant of light openings, this is a wtp 1♥. For someone in 1st or 2nd whose system/style is not tolerant of light openings, but whose weak twos are known to be a touch loose at times - erm - well - I am not you, but you have a tough choice. Very sound openings (1x) and agressive pre-empts has its advantages - but you have to realise that sometimes you're a bit snookered by hands like this. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 You guys do realize it's a 6-4 hand, right? :PHow can you notice the hand is 6-4 and not call the Director about the duplicated ♠5? Assuming there are some clubs mixed in there too, the hand looks way too good for a weak 2 opening as taught in England; but both China and America are on different continents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Hao Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Was going to say that, its an obvious 1♥ opener :)Just realised the typo :P; the hand is 2632 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Hao Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 You guys do realize it's a 6-4 hand, right? :PJust realised the typo :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Easy 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 1♥ and no second choice for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinst22 Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I really think the answer just comes down to partnership style. My preferred style is to open this 1♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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