benlessard Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 (1C)--1D--(2D)--3M 2D is a limit raise so in theory 4th hand is likely weakish. 1- JSF2- forcing3- NF but stronger than 2M4- preemptive5- other do you switch according to vul ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevahound Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 (1C)--1D--(2D)--3M 2D is a limit raise so in theory 4th hand is likely weakish. 1- JSF2- forcing3- NF but stronger than 2M4- preemptive5- other do you switch according to vul ? 5/6 - Fit, for me. No idea what "standard" is, but not sure why I'd want it anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I play it as a fit jump, 2M would be natural F1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I gave this poll one star. Anyway, since I am broke, I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 IMO, preemptive because 4th hand is always weakish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Other. Splinter D-raise (or fake splinter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 2M = NF lead directional and possible place to play.3M = reasonable suit preemptive. the meanings don't change just the requirements to make the bids.for ex QJT9x and out is a reasonable 2M NVUL vs VUL but atunfavorable KQJ9x should pretty much be the minimum for a 2M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 I should have written that JSF = jump show fit. Wich is my preference for jump to 3M. Qxxxx,x,Qxxxx,xx is a perfect example. You dont want to defend 3Nt and 4S may be a winner. I dont really understand those who play 2M as forcing, Hxxxxx happen all the time and lead you to great saves. When vul or at MP I do have some sympathy for 2M as lead directing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I should have written that JSF = jump show fit. Wich is my preference for jump to 3M. Qxxxx,x,Qxxxx,xx is a perfect example. You dont want to defend 3Nt and 4S may be a winner. I dont really understand those who play 2M as forcing, Hxxxxx happen all the time and lead you to great saves. When vul or at MP I do have some sympathy for 2M as lead directing. I'm used to seeing it in the other order, FJS(fit jump shift). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 yeah your probably right. Passed Hand Jump Show Fit Passed Hand Fit Showing Jump Passed hand Fit Jump Shift. probably the 3rd one is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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