lycier Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 [hv=lin=pn|filpd,chenxuemin,meirk46,lycier|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S2TKAH389D9AC269K%2CS3489H2456JD8TQC4%2CS67JH7KAD3467CTJQ%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%204%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1D%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cmc%7C7%7C]499|350[/hv] 这是一幅困难的应叫牌面：应叫1nt？♦是号码牌，别的花色又没长度，实战中opps错误决定，欲作合作性惩罚性加倍。pass应该说是一个错误的决定。如果你是opps，如何处理呢？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 同伴有局直接位置叫的x，应该有开叫实力。3d问止，希望同伴能叫出3n。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 同伴有局直接位置叫的x，应该有开叫实力。3d问止，希望同伴能叫出3n。 我觉得即便是有局，你判断为加倍人是正常开叫实力，我不反对，但3♦毕竟有些高估了，因为应叫人不过是邀请牌面，不能逼局。因为加倍人持12p加倍也是允许的。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 另：本帖在BBO中高级论坛同步讨论，欢迎大家去讨论。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 你曾经pass过叫3d我认为可以考虑，的确可能有冒叫的危险，但比较起丢局的危险我宁愿选择3d表示没有4张高花，同时d没有止张，但有11-12p的均型牌； 如果没有pass过，是不够3d。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVAN CY LO Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 持這些均型牌，對方花色無止，沒4張高花，我會先叫1H 示弱看同伴決定。 我覺得這些狀況，只要不讓對方拿到一點分數已經成功。至於擔心走局的問題。如同伴持16分，如D有檔，他大多數直接叫1NT，沒叫1NT而我持對方的花色，通常這些情況是東西南北都沒配合，能打的定約一般就是一階二階。胡亂叫進局反而有機會叫一個打不成的定約讓對方拿到分數。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 而在bbo中高级论坛上，一些牌手还是倾向于北家应叫1nt。这是链接。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVAN CY LO Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 而在bbo中高级论坛上，一些牌手还是倾向于北家应叫1nt。这是链接。 看你怎樣想。如想搶莊，1NT 一定能搶下來。但是危險指數不低。由於是1D 者引牌，如他持長D套的話... 況且如PARTNER以為1NT 者一定有一檔而跳上3NT 的話... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted August 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 1NT is the normal bid, not a great stopper, but the alternatives are much worse, 2NT is laughable, pass is too commital and the other really decent alternative I consider is to bid 1♥. 目前，在BBO中高级论坛，以fluffy为首者，多数专家同意应叫1nt。而应叫2nt是很可笑的。而少数人，比如美国著名牌手MrAce认为：扣叫2♦最佳。 Crystal clear 2♦ for me Pd says he is short in diamonds, and i have 11 count all of them working, for a passed hand with xxxx ♦, and i will bid 1NT to discourage pd ? That ain't me :) Perhaps at MP but IMPs i am not bidding 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 3D，2D（逼局），1NT（乃至2NT）都能接受。唯独1H不能接受，（接近）逼局的牌力，用示弱的1H，既歪曲了牌力，也谎报了H长度。我个人倾向于2D（C10增加了牌力）。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiaxiachun Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 1ntpd为牌型技术性时，我方找不到明确将牌，拿11p叫1nt权衡了手中d无止张的情况pd为加倍出套实力时，直接加叫进局即可 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikuo Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 2D 如不是理解为双高的话应是叫2D最准确，这里我认为叫2D不是双高，而是PASS的高限 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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