ArtK78 Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 IMPs. 28 board match. All vul. You hold, in second seat: -----A8753AT75T987 You hear the following auction: RHO - LHO 1♦ - 1♠2♠ - 3♣3NT - 5♠6♠ Partner leads the ♦4, third and lowest leads. You see the following dummy: Q42KQ2KQ86343 EDIT: Declarer plays low from dummy at trick one. Plan the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 I guess what you are trying, but I doubt I would have the guts at the table, declarer could have ♦2 stiff, or he could have his void in hearts partner leading a singleton, and although I know it is tactically better to duck the diamond at trick one I am not seeing the benefit just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 the bidding does not match the hand presentation also what card doesdummy play to trick 1???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 The bidding does match the hand presenation. The opening bidder is to your right. But I have edited the OP to make it clearer. This is not the hand as it was played in real life. Declarer and dummy are switched (or the defenders' hands are switched - take your pick). Dummy plays small at trick one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 My partner is not leading 3 from jxxx on this auction, no way. If he does we'll be having a chat later! I'm winning Ace and giving him his ruff, I expect declarer to be void in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 My partner is not leading 3 from jxxx on this auction, no way. If he does we'll be having a chat later! I'm winning Ace and giving him his ruff, I expect declarer to be void in hearts.Please note that the lead is the ♦4, not the ♦3, if that influences your opinion.The ♦3 is in dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 The 5♠ bid was not explained, but it has the normal meaning which is clear from the 6♠ bid. 5♠ was not general invite, as opener is minimum and would pass. 5♠ was not asking for good trump support ask, because opener's spades are pathetic and would pass 5♠ and if it was trump support asking, partner would have been in position to double six spades. So 5♠ was normal asking bid looking for a heart control for slam, which opener has, so he bids the slam. So Declarer has (most likely) six spades, some number of clubs, and at least two hearts. It seems unlikely that partner will have a singleton diamond. Why? Declarer has quite a few know cards (good clubs to have enough to try for slam, good spades--probably to at least five, six more likely) and the two hearts needed for the asking bid of 5♠. So partner has J93 or J932 of diamonds. So I put in the ♦T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sathyab Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 The 5♠ bid was not explained, but it has the normal meaning which is clear from the 6♠ bid. 5♠ was not general invite, as opener is minimum and would pass. 5♠ was not asking for good trump support ask, because opener's spades are pathetic and would pass 5♠ and if it was trump support asking, partner would have been in position to double six spades. So 5♠ was normal asking bid looking for a heart control for slam, which opener has, so he bids the slam. So Declarer has (most likely) six spades, some number of clubs, and at least two hearts. It seems unlikely that partner will have a singleton diamond. Why? Declarer has quite a few know cards (good clubs to have enough to try for slam, good spades--probably to at least five, six more likely) and the two hearts needed for the asking bid of 5♠. So partner has J93 or J932 of diamonds. So I put in the ♦T. Yes, it definitely looks like declarer is looking for help in ♥ asking partner to bid slam without two losers. 5♠ would be consistent if declarer had ♥Qx, so partner could bid slam with 2nd round control. But since you can see top three ♥ honors between you and dummy, the 5♠ bid doesn't probably mean what it conventionally means. The declarer must have something else in mind. But still playing the Ten appears technically correct, but I'd also be wondering why partner didn't lead a ♥ himself instead of dummy's 1st bid suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 The point of this hand was to see if third hand could work out not to play the ♦A. This hand is the same as JEC Match Board 10, except I have interchanged RHO and LHO. Slam is cold unless trump break 4-0, which they did. However, if the lead was a diamond and the hand with the two red aces were in third seat, the defense would have to play the 10 to avoid giving declarer two quick pitches for his Jx of hearts in hand. All very hypothetical, as the opening lead is likely to be a heart, not a diamond. But I thought it was an interesting position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sathyab Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 The point of this hand was to see if third hand could work out not to play the ♦A. This hand is the same as JEC Match Board 10, except I have interchanged RHO and LHO. Slam is cold unless trump break 4-0, which they did. However, if the lead was a diamond and the hand with the two red aces were in third seat, the defense would have to play the 10 to avoid giving declarer two quick pitches for his Jx of hearts in hand. All very hypothetical, as the opening lead is likely to be a heart, not a diamond. But I thought it was an interesting position. Hmm, so the bid of 5♠ with ♥Jx was not hypothetical then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hmm, so the bid of 5♠ with ♥Jx was not hypothetical then ?No. It was textbook. I have everything under control except hearts. If partner can control hearts, we have a slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 So partner has led from Jxxx of Ds on this auction? I suggest partner be given the sack! This would have been an appalling lead and hence is not a realistic problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 So partner has led from Jxxx of Ds on this auction? I suggest partner be given the sack! This would have been an appalling lead and hence is not a realistic problem.Thanks for your input. It is very helpful. I just thought it was an interesting position. I never said it was a realistic problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 No problemo, Art. My input is just as useful as posting a problem which would only arise if playing with a beginner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 my initial post was befor the edit and I Was assuming dummy was playing ♦K, where it is technically better to duck that to win when declarer is void, but the evidence is not strong enough for risking it. dummy playing low is a different issue, but looking carefully at the bidding I think it is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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