hrothgar Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Relay Responder♠ T♥ KJ852♦ AKJ4♣ QT7 Relay Asker♠ KQ2♥ AQT94♦ 82♣ AKJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Relay Responder♠ T♥ KJ852♦ AKJ4♣ QT7 Relay Asker♠ KQ2♥ AQT94♦ 82♣ AKJ MOSCITO auction First hand where I am going to use Keycard rather than QP ask.The Ace of Spades is potentially a monster card. Seems right to ask for it... 3♠ - 4♦4♥- 4N5C - 5H6S 3S = RKCB in Hearts4D = 2 KC, no Queen4H = CAB in Diamonds4N = Q or AK Opener can't have A of Spades and K of Hearts, so he must have the Ace/King of Diamonds 5C = CAB in Clubs5H = Q or AK6S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Relay Responder♠ T♥ KJ852♦ AKJ4♣ QT7 Relay Asker♠ KQ2♥ AQT94♦ 82♣ AKJ3♠-4♦ RKC ♥; 2 no Q4♠-5♣ diamond ask; AK or Q only (slam is good vs the former, hopeless against the latter; risky but seems worth a try based on suit lengths)5♦-5N club ask, Q (or AK) (without the Q♣, we could still wimp out in 5♥, but probably wouldn't)6♣-6♥ spade ask, nothing P I admit this may not be a convincing auction, since it sucks not to be able to determine the diamond holding with no honors to help interpret the response. I'm not 100% sure, but it seems somehow more likely partner will have his values in his long suits rather than stiff AS and only Qxxx in diamonds. Amusingly, if partner had the A♠ and missing only the K♥, you could swing for 7 if you need it, especially since the likely trump lead (or not) could very well give up the trump position. you would be losing only to Kx offside or both 3-0 breaks (play for stiff K if not lead), a 52% grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 First hand where I am going to use Keycard rather than QP ask. 3S = RKCB in Hearts4D = 2 KC, no Queen4H = CAB in Diamonds4N = Q or AK Opener can't have A of Spades and K of Hearts, so he must have the Ace/King of Diamonds 5C = CAB in Clubs5H = Q or AK6SWhy can't the 2 keys be AS and KH? With a minor Q or two, he'll still have GF values without the top two diamonds. Also, I assume you're playing 6H not 6S... Those 3-1 trump holdings are hard enough for slam without missing the A ;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Relay Responder♠ T♥ KJ852♦ AKJ4♣ QT7 Relay Asker♠ KQ2♥ AQT94♦ 82♣ AKJ ...3♦ Even with the 10-card trump fit, we aren't going anywhere without some serious oomph. RKC ♥ won't get us the information in time before the 5-level and might not survive it opposite x Kxxxx Axxx xxx. So: 3♥...4♣ (QP ask, 8 QPs) Now that have 5-level insurance even opposite A Kxxxx A xxx: 4♦....5♣ (DCB; controls in ♥/♦/♣, no second ♥)5♦....5♠ (DCB; second ♦, no second ♣)6♥ Even with a 5♥ response (A Kxxxx Kxxx Qxx), slam is 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 ...might not survive it opposite x Kxxxx Axxx xxx.Is that really a GF response? 6♠ You and Richard both playing in spades?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Is that really a GF response? You and Richard both playing in spades?!Heh...fixed typo. A / K is technically a GF response given the 5 QP stipulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 A / K is technically a GF response given the 5 QP stipulation.Ah, that's another difference I guess. I insist on a decent 8 HCP, just having 5 QPs alone isn't enough for a GF for me. Soft 8 counts and weaker will bid semi positive responses barring some freak shape with good fillers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 ... 3♦ (shape)3♥ - 4♣ (relay, 8 QP) Not enough for grand slam here (all the keycards would be 8 QP, but then there is no way to remove the diamond loser). However, there's also no way small slam isn't good. 6♥ - Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Relay Responder♠ T♥ KJ852♦ AKJ4♣ QT7 Relay Asker♠ KQ2♥ AQT94♦ 82♣ AKJ Straube 3♥-4♣ QP ask, 84♦-4♠ PCB, odd heart with even diamond4N-5♥ ask, odd club and skip for small spade but stay for HK6♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sieong Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 (PCB with control parity) Same as Adam's, since at 8QP that's all we need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 I don't like RKC here because you might possibly end up in slam missing a ♦ control. ♠A can indeed be a monster card, but it's counted with our QP's, so no problem there imo. ...-3♦ (shape)3♥-4♣ (QP ask ; 8)4♦-5♣ (start scan ; 1 in ♥, 1/2 in ♦ and ♣)(5♦-5♠)* (relay ; 2 in ♦, 1 in ♣)6♥-pass(*) if rightsiding is an issue and you're afraid of a ♦ lead through Kxxx you can ask to verify you have 2 top honors. We have just enough space, with 1 ♦ honor North will bid 5♥. A-Kxxxx-Kxxx-Qxx or x-Kxxxx-AKxx-Qxx is good enough for slam, with the extra step you can also figure out which it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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