eagles123 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 first seat matchpoints w/w [hv=pc=n&s=sqthak96dj9754cqj]133|100[/hv] I did open 1D with this, but really had a lot of reservations, QJ and QT doubletons, the possibility of having to rebid the diamonds if p bids 1♠... it seems to be pretty much the worst possible 13 count u can get?! so is this an obvious opening hand or should it be passing? Thanks, Eagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 It is an obvious opening. I have seen people pass 13 counts (and, yes, this is a wretched 13 count), but only once or twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 If you want to put partner off, and can't swallow rebidding 2♦ over a black suit, open a weak notrump if you're playing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PhilKing Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 1. Love all is the "bidder's vulnerability" at matchpoints. For instance, if you go one down in 1NT, opponents can probably make 1NT (-50 versus -90), and most of the time you will not be doubled, so you shouldn't be looking to pass these hands. You could make a case for pass at game all, since that is the wrong vulnerability to win the race to 1NT (-100 versus -90). However, 13 points is just a bit too eccentric, but it's good that you recognised this one is closer to 11. 2. If you play a weak NT (which I assumed you did), then opening one with some 5422 shapes can be best. Specifically, when you have four hearts and a five card minor, or 45m, it saves you the dreaded five-card rebid. If you have four spades, there is no rebid problem, so the minor should generally be preferred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 fwiw I don't see anything wrong with passing with a minimum hand and a 5 card weak minor suit. Of course the partnership needs to agree to this. I think much much more important is to focus on learning play of the hand rather than to pass or open this hand type. I open but then I would open with less... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 i downgrade the occasional 12 count, but 13 is going too far (note you also have a decent number of intermediates here). you're right about the rebid problem if you open 1♦ - so all good players would treat this hand as balanced. you play a weak nt, right? just open 1NT then and all your rebid problems are solved. playing in NTs gives full value to your soft honours too - doubleton queen in NTs isn't such a bad holding at all, especially when you're declarer, because it's protected on the opening lead. this theory applies in varying degrees to all 5422 5C4H, 5D4M and 5C4D combinations as you get similar rebid problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 can see why 1NT opener would be better, thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 It's not a very bad 13. You do have good shape, one ten and two nines. I agree with opening this hand 1NT. With a hand likexxQJxxKQJxxAx yoo can open 1♦ as the hand is suit-oriented, NT probably plays better in partner's hand, and you are not ashamed of rebidding your diamonds. But normally this shape should be opened 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I once passed a 13-count but I felt dirty inside for days. :( Don't let this happen to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 It's not a very bad 13. You do have good shape, one ten and two nines.I am sorry, Helene. It really is a very bad 13. I am sure you can make it worse, but this one is really pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 For what it's worth, KNR rates this hand 11.35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 whats is KNR please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Obvious opener for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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