Stephen Tu Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 all vul, IMPsYou hold ♠♥at952♦kjt2♣t7621nt (1) - (3♠) -?(1) 15-17 Your call? If you double, and partner bids a minor, do you bid 4♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Double then 4♥. That shows this type of hand - five hearts, but not good enough to insist on them as a trump suit, and willing for partner to convert to 5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Dbl and Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 I'm really not thrilled about it with a void in spades, partner is gonna pass too often imo (depends on style ofc). I would probably just bid 4H (or 4D showing hearts, whatever my methods are). If partner is a big non passer here then I like double. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I deeply hate to double 2S with a void playing normal style, so it does not cross my mind to do it at the 3 level. But yes I would correct to 4H to show 5H+4om Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I would DBL and then bid 4♥ as Andy said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Specifically for the 3♠ bid, not anything else at the 3-level: consider foregoing the infrequent case where we feel we must absolutely bid 3NT to play ---allowing Double with a T/O hand more flexible than this one (Partner can take it out or leave it in), and 3NT to be a serious takeout like the OP hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I bet that the frequency of a hand where I want to bid 3 NT is much higher then a 0544 hand with gamegoing strength... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 If you think it's worth agreeing methods for this specific sequence, there are several ways you can do it without having to give up a natural 3NT: - Play 4♣ as hearts and 4♥ as clubs, then use the extra step over 4♣ to sort out whether the trump suit is good enough. - Play non-leaping Michaels (or non-leaping Michaels with 4♦ and 4♥ swapped). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 If you think it's worth agreeing methods for this specific sequence, there are several ways you can do it without having to give up a natural 3NT: - Play 4♣ as hearts and 4♥ as clubs, then use the extra step over 4♣ to sort out whether the trump suit is good enough. - Play non-leaping Michaels (or non-leaping Michaels with 4♦ and 4♥ swapped).Yeh, we have the non-leaping Michaels agreement for 4C and 4D. But we still thought it necessary to use the unnatural 3NT for this case (3n, then 4H=your DBL, then 4H) and for the minor one and two-suiters. Maybe we just tried to do too much, but I don't remember losing a better-scoring 3NT by doubling. We can still get to 3NT sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Dbl for me, but unlike the rest of you, I'm not upset if partner sits. If partner is on a min with good spades, especially a holding like KTxx, who's to say we're making game anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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