New Hand

[barsikb]

Dealer:West, Vul: E/W

 

[hv=pc=n&s=s876hk98532da7ck7&w=saqjhaq76djt852ca&n=sk2ht4dkq9cq86543&e=st9543hjd643cjt92]399|300[/hv]

[jillybean]

1D P P 2H AP?

[Cyberyeti]

1D P P 2H AP?

This is nowhere near a 2♥ overcall in the passout seat, most people play it 13-15 ish, I play it 14-17.

 

1♦-P-P-1♥-1N-2♣-2♠-P-P-P maybe

[barsikb]

Thank you, jillybean and Cyberyeti! Really like Cyberyeti's auction>

[Antrax]

Also possible:

1NT-P-2♥-P

2♠-AP

[Cyberyeti]

Also possible:

1NT-P-2♥-P

2♠-AP

No thanks, this hand is too good for 1N.

 

K109xx

J10x

x

xxx

 

is an easy game, if you break the transfer you'll get the actual hand opposite with the ♠109 being small ones.

[Antrax]

I don't understand how the auction proceeds with your "no thanks" hand after I open 1♦.

[Cyberyeti]

I don't understand how the auction proceeds with your "no thanks" hand after I open 1♦.

We respond 1♠ on that and will be in 4♠.

[Antrax]

Can you give a complete auction, assuming it's not 1♦-1♠-4♠, which seems unrealistic?

[inquiry]

[hv=pc=n&s=s876hk98532da7ck7&w=saqjhaq76djt852ca&n=sk2ht4dkq9cq86543&e=st9543hjd643cjt92=w&v=e&b=16&a=1dpp1hpp2sppp]399|300|This is the beginner/novice forum, so let's don't get involved in opening West hand with 1NT and a singleton, or having East respond to a 1♦ bid with his blizzard.

 

So West will open 1♦ and south will balance back with 1♥ (jilly, the number of hearts is ok for 2♥ but the hand is not strong enough). West is NOT going to bid 1NT for two reasons. One he still has that singleton, but more importantly, his partner could not even keep the bidding alive, and a 1NT bid here opposite a passed hand promises more than a 1NT opener in strength. This is getting close too two strong, but it is not there.

 

North has a close decision. His partner's 1♥ bid takes into account that he (north) has some values. That is the balancer is counting on North to have at least 7 or 10 points, which north has, but he has no fit for hearts. Some would bid 1NT with north, others would bid 2♣.

 

If north bids 1NT, he likely plays that contract.

IF north bids 2♣, South will pass and West will reopen with a double and EW will find their spade fit

IF North passes, East will balance back with 2♠ and west will have to avoid the temptation to bid 3♠... his partner couldn't keep the auction alive earlier.

 

So the three most likely auctions (imho for beginner/novice forum) are, depending upon North's action

 

1D-p-p-1H

p-p-2S-ALL PASS (2S EW as shown)

 

or

 

1D-p-p-1H

p-1NT-All pass (1NT NS)

 

or

 

1D-p-p-1H

p-2C-p-p

X-p-2S- ALL PASS (2S EW)

 

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[Cyberyeti]

This is the beginner/novice forum, so let's don't get involved in opening West hand with 1NT and a singleton, or having East respond to a 1♦ bid with his blizzard.

 

So West will open 1♦ and south will balance back with 1♥ (jilly, the number of hearts is ok for 2♥ but the hand is not strong enough). West is NOT going to bid 1NT for two reasons. One he still has that singleton, but more importantly, his partner could not even keep the bidding alive, and a 1NT bid here opposite a passed hand promises more than a 1NT opener in strength. This is getting close too two strong, but it is not there.

 

 

If you're going to snarkily reply to my post, at least actually read it, I didn't suggest E was going to respond to 1♦ with the hand in the OP, but with the hand I gave to illustrate why you don't open 1N (K109xx, J10x, x, xxxx).

 

Last I checked I had a nice 18 count which I chose to treat as 18-19 bal which is what the 1N rebid opposite a passed hand shows.

 

To Antrax, our auction would not be N/B suitable, but (playing weak no trump bent Acol), it would go:

 

1♦-1♠-2N(GF unbal)-3♣(forced unless very shapely)-3♠(5+♦ probably 5 maybe 6 bad, exactly 3♠)-4♠

[Antrax]

I only suggested 1NT with a singleton as an alternative - if it's too confusing I apologize. I thought perhaps OP saw others landed in 2♠ and wondered how. I would personally prefer not to have to reverse with this hand.