lycier Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 [hv=sn=lycier&s=SAJHAKQT3DK9CA843&wn=机器人&w=S9875HJ62DT875C95&nn=000ffj&n=ST3H975DAQJ632CK6&en=机器人&e=SKQ642H84D4CQJT72&d=s&v=o&b=43&a=2NP3CP3HP4DP4S(RKCB)P4N(14)P5D(cuebid)P6HPPP]499|350[/hv] 这是我以前保持的牌例。我觉得6♥的定约，尺度把握适切。但是，叫牌进程显示♦K后，7♦要比7♥更加优异，分寸的把握最佳。这个想法怎么样？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted July 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 [hv=sn=lycier&s=SAQJ2HAT87642DATC&wn=机器人&w=SKT654H9DKQ2CAK97&nn=000ffj&n=S983HKQDJ87654C83&en=机器人&e=S7HJ53D93CQJT6542&d=s&v=n&b=47&a=1H1S(One-level%20overcall%20--%205+%20S%3B%208-17%20HCP%3B%209-19%20total%20points)PP2HD(Takeout%20double%20--%203+%20C%3B%203+%20D%3B%202-%20H%3B%205+%20S%3B%2017-%20HCP%3B%2014-19%20total%20points)R3C(4+%20C%3B%2010-%20total%20points)4HPPP]499|350[/hv] 这是以前保持的牌例。我的反思是：3♥是一个合理的分寸把握，而4♥是冒叫。同意吗？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted July 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 [hv=sn=lycier&s=S4HKQJ543D52CA943&wn=机器人&w=SAK93HTDJT876CT65&nn=000ffj&n=SJ87652HA8D93CKQ2&en=机器人&e=SQTH9762DAKQ4CJ87&d=w&v=b&b=36&a=P1SP1NP2CP2DP2SP3HP4HPPP]499|350[/hv] 这是以前保存的牌例。我的反思是：加叫4♥的前置条件是：由于已知♠失配，所以在有限的点力情况下，要想加叫进局，♠上不能分布太大的费点，这牌假如♣KQ换成♠，前途凶险。这就是一个分寸的把握。不是吗？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted July 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 [hv=sn=lycier&s=ST95HAT653D2CAQ93&wn=机器人&w=SAKQJ7643H8DTCK52&nn=000ffj&n=S82H72DJ543CJ8764&en=机器人&e=SHKQJ94DAKQ9876CT&d=w&v=o&b=24&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P2D(Forcing%20two%20over%20one%20--%20biddable%20D%3B%2014+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P2S(Opener%20rebids%20suit%20--%205+%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3H(5+%20D%3B%204+%20H%3B%2014+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3S(11-21%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20S%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%3B%20forcing)P4D(4+%20H%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20D%3B%2014+%20total%20points)P4S(11-21%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20S%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P5D(4+%20H%3B%20strong%20rebiddable%20D%3B%2014-18%20total%20points)P5S(7+%20S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2015-22%20total%20points)P6D(4+%20H%3B%20strong%20rebiddable%20D%3B%2018%20total%20points)P6S(7+%20S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2015-22%20total%20points)PPP]499|350[/hv]这是以前保存的牌例。机器人不是人，但也会顶牛。假如我们也抓到这种类似的牌面，那么如何把握合情合理的分寸呢？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted July 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 [hv=sn=lycier&s=SAKQT84HK52DKC964&wn=机器人&w=SHAT86DQJ73CAQT32&nn=sungh&n=SJ932HQJ3DAT6542C&en=机器人&e=S765H974D98CKJ875&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=PP1SD(Takeout%20double%20--%203-5%20C%3B%203-5%20D%3B%203-4%20H%3B%202-%20S%3B%2012+%20total%20points)2SP2NP3DP3HP4SPPP]499|350[/hv]这是以前保持的牌例。问题来了：如何合理地把握进贯的分寸？话说回来，这题不容易。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted July 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 [hv=sn=lycier&s=SKQJT3H5D864CAK64&wn=机器人&w=SA862HKT864D975CJ&nn=madongjun&n=S4HAQJ3DAKJ3C9832&en=机器人&e=S975H972DQT2CQT75&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1SP2DP2SP2NP3CP3HP3NPPP]499|350[/hv] 这是一例二盖一应叫后再叫5张高花的牌面。桥牌第一法则是：不要重复再叫两次相同估值花色两次！问题来了：在同伴二盖一2♦应叫后，这牌你是如何适切把握再叫的分寸的？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 53和62，通常还是53比62要好一些。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVAN CY LO Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 1. 3C 是否PUPPET STAYMEN?2. 叫4D 最基本是否要有6張套? 偶然5張套可以嗎? 如果3C 不是PUPPET, 只是NORMAL STAYMEN, 答叫人在開叫人只有4張保證的情況下夠膽叫6，我一定叫7。 如果3C 是PUPPET，則此牌我會滿足於叫成6階。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVAN CY LO Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 如果是打賭博性的3NT，持西的牌會直接開3NT。東知道西一定是黑桃套，旁門邊花最多只有一個K，如有就是CK, 如沒有K 則3NT 有可能宕。5D 好像是比較安全，只要D分配比較平均的話。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 在开叫-争叫，两个pass这样的叫牌进程中，通常都是失配牌（双方都等对方再叫，以摆脱困境）。南应该有些S，在没有KQ的情况下，而主动叫2H，肯定有6-7张，并且有防守牌力（所以低花很短）。北第二轮的再加倍，很不合牌理。对方明显有C的配合，在己方已有8-9张H配合的情况下，非要让敌方找到C的配合再叫牌（东有很便宜的5C牺牲）？ 这副牌的合理进程应该是： 1H - （1S） - pass* - (pass)2H - (x) - 3H - (pass)4H - pass - pass - pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 如果2D是转换叫，有双张带A的支持，北就应该叫2H。在北拒绝转换的情况下（应该表明更好的S，更差的H），也就是双高花都失配，南就应该停叫。 如果北同意转换，叫2H，南可再叫3H，北在S里没有什么浪费，可接受邀请，叫4H。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 这副牌，北的2S，叫低了2.5阶。这是典型的“数牌点叫牌"。 北有4张将牌配合，6张以A领头的D套（同伴有D支持，好；同伴无D支持，也好），C缺门，H第三轮控制，即使同伴低限，只要不浪费太多在C上，都能成局。我会叫4C，splinter。只要北叫了4C，满贯就顺理成章。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 南持低限，但有一个比较坚固的S套（只有一个失墩），C似乎缺乏配合（北跳过2C叫2D）。2S几乎是唯一的选择。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 如果不需要短将牌一方将吃，6-2比5-3更好。因为遇到4-1，5-3配容易失控。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 西的1S-2S-3S-4S，没问题。东的2D-3H-4D，也没问题。在西叫4S后，东应该停叫，因为有两个旁门失墩（H和C，没有满贯）。不管同伴的S是否有失墩，都应该停叫。 赌博性的3NT，很少有人用于高花。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 其实就是一个黑桃K的位置而已，同伴承诺有适度配合，持这样的牌，又是有局方，叫上4♥正常。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 南开叫时就已经是低限了，我觉得不应该再加叫同伴的3♥到4♥.（因为1NT也是限制性的，虽然是逼叫的） Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 机器人也挺有意思（实际是不是人挺有意思，因为这个进程肯定是按照人设定的程序进行的）。如果是真人，应该在4♠或5♦后停叫了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 天仙配的牌，没有什么牌理。如上叫牌进程，在南家3♥后，北家扣一下4♣也许更好。（或者2NT后直接4♣扣叫） 更好的进程，如楼上所述，在1♠开叫后，北家直接按哈代好的限制性加叫叫3♥好些（已经有了配合，牌面增值），这样应当能叫上满贯。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 当时考虑实力不够直接在同伴2♦后叫3♣，并且同伴的2♦已经建立逼局进程，3张小方块不足以加叫同伴的低花，5134的牌型又不适合叫无将，所以选择了不规范的再叫2♠。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9Ayy Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 我认为：2nt后，用纳吉的话，N家可以叫3C，表示C单缺，S扣叫3D；N再叫4C，表示C空门，这样S就可以直接问关键张了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 我认为：2nt后，用纳吉的话，N家可以叫3C，表示C单缺，S扣叫3D；N再叫4C，表示C空门，这样S就可以直接问关键张了。可能你记错了。是用纳吉。南2NT是寻求帮张花色，北家叫3♦表示草花没有帮张，方块有帮张。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9Ayy Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 哦 谢谢东方！是我搞错了。那在3H后，扣4C，接受邀请，有想法。不要直接4S封局，看看同伴是什么意思，要是同伴继续扣叫4D，N家可以5C排除问了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVAN CY LO Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 splinter 有 splinter 的好處及壞處。 這幅牌北splinter 4C, 東可能立刻叫5C犧牲。最後如東西7C(X) 犧牲，只宕4輸1100，比6S 的小滿貫還要少幾百分。 大牌實力不夠開叫，以隱性SPLINTER 比較好吧。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungh Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 这副牌，北的2S，叫低了2.5阶。这是典型的"数牌点叫牌"。 北有4张将牌配合，6张以A领头的D套（同伴有D支持，好；同伴无D支持，也好），C缺门，H第三轮控制，即使同伴低限，只要不浪费太多在C上，都能成局。 splinter 有 splinter 的好處及壞處。這幅牌北splinter 4C, 東可能立刻叫5C犧牲。最後如東西7C(X) 犧牲，只宕4輸1100，比6S 的小滿貫還要少幾百分。 大牌實力不夠開叫，以隱性SPLINTER 比較好吧。 学习了。北家叫3C表示差的限制性加叫。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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