Fluffy Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sq97532ha82dt2cq9&w=skthk9753dk864ct4&n=sa4hqjt4da73cj873&e=sj86h6dqj95cak652&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=2spp3cp3ndppp]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndavies Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 3c is pretty bad. Minimum hcp, only 5 clubs and a weak spade holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Both actions are horrendous. 3♣ has a lot of strikes against it - 5-card suit, bad pips, good defence, poor playing strength, terrible spade holding, shortage in other major. 3NT is is slightly less bad - no honour in clubs, wrong spade holding, minimum values. To be fair, West was already out of winning options. Sometimes 3NT is not much worse a contract than 3♣ and it is rarely doubled. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Preempts sometime work. This is one of those times. Passing 2♠ or 3♣ both carry risk. The only clue is East has heart shortness and spade length and partner didn't take any action when he is odds on short in spades and long in hearts and didn't bid, which might suggest the best option is to pass two spades in the balancing seat. So if I were to assign any blame, it would have to be primarily to East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Preempts work more often when we make bad choices against them. The West hand is pretty much the expectation when 2♠ has been passed to East. East should only act if he knows partner forgot to act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 East 100%, clear pass to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 100% to South for a truly effective preempt. Kept E-W out of good 3D contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 east jxx of spades and x of hearts....partner obviously has a bag of crap if he can't bid when you have those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 partner obviously has a bag of crap if he can't bid. Or we want to get them down/try defending at 2♠. 3NT is also a little too much. Why didn't West bid 3♥? Not that it would get them to a much better spot but 3NT is too one-sided. I'd say East 75, West 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 As Billy Eisenberg once said to Eddie Kantar after a disaster, "That's ok, we deserve each other". 3♣ and 3nt were both WAY out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Agree with the consensus, East's 3 ♣ call is risky. That being said, West has no business bidding 3 NT over the 3 ♣ bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 3♣ is awful. I don't like 3N either, but it all started with the horrible 3♣ call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Guess I'm the only one who would not pass a 3C balance heh. I dunno, looks like partner has spade length and balanced, and the CT can be a filler, calling it a non honor seems wrong... and the ST can be useful if partner has the Q. Partner can be pretty heavy if he doesn't have heart length and has spade length. And as PK said, a lot of the time 3N and 3C are about equal, 3N just has more upside (ofc it has the downside of -300 sometimes). TL;DR, I like to bid GAME! Balancing with 3C is bad obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 3 C is poor. I would bid 3H over 3C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Of course, Justin would not pass a 3C balance in this situation. His partner will not have that hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I thought that passing 3 clubs is ridicolous..., so no, I do not deserve East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Imo: 3♣ 75%, 3NT 25%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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