eagles123 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=saq9742hqj5dac964&n=skhakt7dq8432cj82]133|200[/hv] dealer is west (opps are silent) what is your auction? Cheers, Eagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Prob something like 1D 1S1N 2D(*artGF)2H 2S3D 3H3S 4SP Or N could bid 4H over 3H. But basically it looks like we're going to be down 1 in 4M unless something breaks 3-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I would bid 1♦-1♠1NT-4♠ A bit primitive. I don't think it's the best contract. Probably best to stay out of game but that's imposible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I'm not even sure 4♠ is the best game if you're going to be in game, it can go off with spades 3-3 if they start with 4 rounds of clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenG Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Assuming Eagles is playing weak NT, the 1N rebid isn't available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackojack Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Playing weak no trump it looks horrible for North. However, it could be a blessing in disguise. Suppose South makes a crafty (exploratory) 2nd response of 3♣. So the bidding goes: 1♦-1♠-2♦-3♣-3NT-pass. This gives you the best chamce of making a game. Is South being silly or clever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Eh, playing weak NT: 1N-4H; 4S-P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I suspect that 4♥ has better play than 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Assuming Eagles is playing Weak NT, this is the hand-with-a-singleton for it, and I expect the auction to go: 1NT-4♠ (or 1NT-whatever Texas they're playing-4♠). Oh well. Strong NT, or if you can't convince yourself to open 1NT with this, or your partner won't let you: 1♦-1♠2♦-2♥ ("third suit forcing")3♥-3♠something leading to 4M (either M). Again, oh well. I don't know how many people with 26 high can avoid game - maybe some will survive 3NT because the clubs break and something nice happens on the run of the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Perhaps1♦ = ~10-17, 4+ diamonds, unbal... - 1♥ = INV+ relay1♠ = min, <4 spades unless 4441/4450... - 1NT = GF erlay2♥ = 4 hearts, 5+ diamonds... - 2♠ = relay2NT = 5 diamonds... - 3♣ = relay3♦ = 1453... - 3♠ = club stop?4♣ = no... - 4♥ I guess where I want to be is 1NT but getting there might be a little tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Perhaps1♦ = ~10-17, 4+ diamonds, unbal... - 1♥ = INV+ relaybut maybe not in this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=saq9742hqj5dac964&n=skhakt7dq8432cj82&d=w&a=1DP1SP1N(Diamond rebid seems worse)P4Sppp]200|200| Possible 2/1 auction IMO, in practice, you are likely to reach 4♠ whatever system you play; but, In theory: notrump partscores = 10, ♠ partscores = 9, ♥ partscores = 8, 3N = 5, 4♥ = 4, 4♠ = 3. [/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 but maybe not in this forum.True, but most of the N/B possibilities have already been posted, specifically1♦ - 1♠; 1NT - 4♠ If you use some form of Checkback then you might have tools available to distinguish between one and two spades with North and stop in 3NT, say:1♦ - 1♠; 1NT - 2♣!; 2♥ - 3♠; 3NT1♦ - 1♠; 1NT - 2♦!; 2♥ - 2♠; 3NT1♦ - 1♠; 1NT - 2♦!; 2♥ - 2♠; 2NT - 3♠; 3NT but it is just not practical to stop in a part-score here. That was really the point I was making, that it really makes little difference if you are playing "fancy relays" or beginners basic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted July 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 thanks guys, we ended in 4S through 1D 1s 2d 4s... the good news was it made! the bad news was loads of others were in 3N making + 1 as the clubs split AKQ/xxxx :( One of those things I guess!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 The best contract is a major suit partscore but I doubt it possible to stop short of game. Being matchpoints, the best contract is the one the field is in, which I would guess to be 4S. So 4S down 1 is most likely result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenG Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 The best contract is a major suit partscore but I doubt it possible to stop short of game. Being matchpoints, the best contract is the one the field is in, which I would guess to be 4S. So 4S down 1 is most likely result.I'm not sure about that in an English club mainly playing Acol. I think, with a random partner, I'd bid this 1♦-1♠,2♦-3♠, (shut eyes and pray) 3NT. I really don't like this sequence, but I would think it, or something similar, would be much the most common at club level, at least in the bit of England in which I play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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